SMR vs. VCP

[Leon]

I don't know about SMR but VCP gives the actual sale price. It's not a guide in that respect. Now, that being said we all know to buy the card and not the holder. So, if a T206 in vg condition sold for $80 and another one, same type card and same condition sold for $100, you still need to look at each card to determine if the $100 card presented (aesthetically) better, thereby warranting the higher price.

[jefferyepayne]

I've been tracking auction prices on ebay for specific cards/sets I am interested in for a couple of years now so I have a lot of data. I'm getting tired of doing this myself and so have been looking for a better alternative to use as a baseline guide. I've never found the print price guides to be very good.

I find SMR to be wildly inaccurate and so don't think it is a viable price guide alternative.

VCP appears much more promising and useful. I like their overall approach to determining prices but wish they would broaden their analysis to include other auctions and forums. This would help increase the sample size for scarcer cards and make their $$$ values more accurate. I realize this isn't easy to do in some instances. I agree with others that for cards that are traded frequently, the values are much closer to the market value than other sources.

jeff

[irishdenny]

Originally Posted by Leon

I don't know about SMR but VCP gives the actual sale price. It's not a guide in that respect. Now, that being said we all know to buy the card and not the holder. So, if a T206 in vg condition sold for $80 and another one, same type card and same condition sold for $100, you still need to look at each card to determine if the $100 card presented (aesthetically) better, thereby warranting the higher price.

"And the Crowd Roared"

[Vegas-guy]

Does VCP keep track of the different back types on T206s or is it just per player/grade?

[Bosox Blair]

Originally Posted by Vegas-guy

Does VCP keep track of the different back types on T206s or is it just per player/grade?

Hi Reg,

Back types.

Cheers,
Blair

[BobbyVCP]

Not all but a very good portion:


ACC # Set Name Year Cards
T206 (Red Hindu) White Borders (Red Hindu) 1909 113
T206 (UZIT) White Borders (UZIT) 1909 113
T206 (Drum 350) White Borders (Drum 350) 1909 270
T206 (Cycle 460) White Borders (Cycle 460) 1909 109
T206 (Cycle 350) White Borders (Cycle 350) 1909 217
T206 (Carolina Brights) White Borders (Carolina Brights) 1909 216
T206 (Brown Lenox) White Borders (Brown Lenox) 1909 113
T206 (Brown Hindu) White Borders (Brown Hindu) 1909 193
T206 (Broadleaf 460) White Borders (Broadleaf 460) 1909 109
T206 (Broadleaf 350) White Borders (Broadleaf 350) 1909 216
T206 (Black Lenox) White Borders (Black Lenox) 1909 111
T206 (Factory 42) White Borders (Factory 42) 1909 108
T206 (Ghosts, Miscuts & Oddities) T206 White Borders (Ghosts, Miscuts & Oddities) 1909 525
T206 (AB Frame) White Borders (American Beauty Frame) 1909 315
T206 (AB No Frame) White Borders (American Beauty No Frame) 1909 82
T206 (EPDG) White Borders (EPDG) 1909 471
T206 (Old Mill) White Borders (Old Mill) 1909 509
T206 (Polar Bear) White Borders (Polar Bear) 1909 319
T206 (Sovereign) White Borders (Sovereign) 1909 470
T206 (Tolstoi) White Borders (Tolstoi) 1909 318
T206 (Old Mill Overprint) White Borders (Old Mill Overprint) 1909 0
T206 (Piedmont and Sweet Caporal) White Borders (Piedmont & Sweet Caporal) 1909-11 524

[ScottFandango]

dont forget VCP has BOBBY, a very approachable chap who often frequents the boards.

[DICKTOWLE]

Bobby Binder is the best, you should never have to pay higher, this is the real price in real time why would you want to spend more. I have spent a lot for collections by using this as a guide. It works

[Runscott]

I have subscribed to VCP since November and use it every day. I use it in conjunction with ebay and searches of the major auction houses, to keep track of prices in my own spreadsheets for issues I'm interested in. It works well.

I find SMR to sometimes have weird information; for instance, it lists most of the T205 cards, but leaves some variations out - seems to be almost random. e.g-only one of the Wilhelm cards is listed. For other variations, it lists the same exact price for both variations, when real market price for the two is drastically different.

Regarding VCP, I find it odd that it is missing so much data, and it seems to be almost random. Sometimes ebay information shows up almost immediately - sometimes never. Same for major auction house data - it's easier sometimes to just google a card to check auction house results. You'll find stuff that way that isn't in VCP at all. As a former programmer, I don't think I could write a software program that would yield such weird results. Having said that, VCP still should give you a good enough idea in most cases, to make a purchase decision.