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Old 01-24-2012, 03:26 PM
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Can't see that with his body type his good for a long term contract.

Cecil Fielder listed as 6'3" and 230pds
ie his dad and his playing days.
Within 8 years after Cecil's big breakout year of 1990
51 HR - 134 RBI season in 1990
6 years later - 39 HR - 117 RBIs
8 years he was hitting 13 HR - 61 RBI in 1997
gone 9 years after best sesson. 13 total

Prince Fielder listed as 5'11" and 275pds
50 HR - 119 RBI in 2007
4 years later - 38 HR - 120 RBIs
7 years to date.

So by the numbers his dad was as good if not a little player. But at the same point in both carriers (4 years after best sesson) Cecil only lasted 2 more year. And they give Prince 9 year contract?????
Hope for him its all alot of signing bonus and not so much backend deal for the 2nd half of the contract term.
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They're going to need a bigger dugout.
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$214 million....chump change.
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At least he and Pujols are now in the american league. Helps the Cubbies to have a chance to get to the post season.
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At least he and Pujols are now in the american league. Helps the Cubbies to have a chance to get to the post season.
Addition by subtraction, leave it to a Cubs fan to find the silver lining!
Actually it helps the Cards too!
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So much for using V-Mart as the DH. They used to have the luxury of platooning V-Mart and using their other catcher (Alex Avila - aint so shabby) which gave them some flexibility with V-Mart. There's no way V-Mart takes 1B or DH from Cabrerra or Fielder and they have a pretty good young catcher in Avila. Looks like V-Mart may be in for some reduced playing time. Oddly enough the Tigers signed V-Mart last year to a few year contract for some decent cash. The Tigers must be looking to make a huge push.
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So much for using V-Mart as the DH. They used to have the luxury of platooning V-Mart and using their other catcher (Alex Avila - aint so shabby) which gave them some flexibility with V-Mart. There's no way V-Mart takes 1B or DH from Cabrerra or Fielder and they have a pretty good young catcher in Avila. Looks like V-Mart may be in for some reduced playing time. Oddly enough the Tigers signed V-Mart last year to a few year contract for some decent cash. The Tigers must be looking to make a huge push.
He was injured last week, possibly out for the year. Torn ACL
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Since Victor Martinez is out for the year due to injury, it won't be until 2013 that Cabrera, Fielder and Martinez are in the same lineup.

I love this move. The AL gets better in 2012. The Tigers will be a great team to watch. Good pitching and hitting. WS in 2012. If not, it will be fun. Thanks to Mike Illitch , the new George S.
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Default . . . but with Victor possibly out for the 2012 season

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. . . it might serve both as a means to help protect Cabrerra's bat in the lineup, and another building block for a team trying to become a perennial contender.

I look at the acquisition alittle different then some fans. If Jim Leyland's plan is to make sure most of his biggest guns get adequate time to rest during the season, in an attempt to keep them healthier and fresh, then an eventual rotation of Cabrerra, Fielder, Martinez, and Avila might achieve that (where one man sits out each game). Odd man out makes for an extra weapon on the bench in late innings too. Plus, I wouldn't rule out the outside possibility that Victor learns to play alittle third base. He might not be the typical thirdbaseman, but I don't think he would embarass himself either. Not to mention, the man can hit. Detroit's stable of higher-price talent might be a problem other managers wish they had. But only if the egos are checked at the start of season, and positive team chemistry is achieved.

It wasn't too long ago the Tigers were picked to contend for their division, and they damn near surplanted the Royals in the cellar.
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looks like the Angels STOLE Pujols after seeing this bloated (pun intended) Detroit contract...
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Default Re: O/T, Prince Fielder to Tigers for 9 year deal

Let's hold off a bit on the coronation ceremony. Their defense is going to be brutal and unless the light suddenly goes on for Austin Jackson, they don't have a real leadoff hitter. The Tigers will rue this contract for a long time.
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Can't see that with his body type his good for a long term contract.

Cecil Fielder listed as 6'3" and 230pds
ie his dad and his playing days.
Within 8 years after Cecil's big breakout year of 1990
51 HR - 134 RBI season in 1990
6 years later - 39 HR - 117 RBIs
8 years he was hitting 13 HR - 61 RBI in 1997
gone 9 years after best sesson. 13 total

Prince Fielder listed as 5'11" and 275pds
50 HR - 119 RBI in 2007
4 years later - 38 HR - 120 RBIs
7 years to date.

So by the numbers his dad was as good if not a little player. But at the same point in both carriers (4 years after best sesson) Cecil only lasted 2 more year. And they give Prince 9 year contract?????
Hope for him its all alot of signing bonus and not so much backend deal for the 2nd half of the contract term.
I agree with the body type comparison, but in terms of who is/was the better player your incorrect. Prince is a much better hitter. .282 vs .255 lifetime average is not even close. Also Prince only needs one more season to tie his dads mark of over 100 RBI seasons, he'll do that easily in each of the the next 4 years, cruising right by him. Also, comparing their walks to K's ratio, not even close. Prince is a monster! His Big Daddy had a few good power # seasons, but not close to the hitter the lil guy is.

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Paul,
Most likely the first time in a long time Prince has been referrred to as "the 'lil guy."
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Did anyone of you know that Price Fielder is a vegetarian?

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Seems to be working.
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I have to retract this statement, just read in the Detroit newspapers and Prince Fielder confirmed it. He was a vegetarian for about 3 months and that was it.

I am still estatic that he has joined the Tigers.

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Can't see that with his body type his good for a long term contract.

Cecil Fielder listed as 6'3" and 230pds
ie his dad and his playing days.
Within 8 years after Cecil's big breakout year of 1990
51 HR - 134 RBI season in 1990
6 years later - 39 HR - 117 RBIs
8 years he was hitting 13 HR - 61 RBI in 1997
gone 9 years after best sesson. 13 total

Prince Fielder listed as 5'11" and 275pds
50 HR - 119 RBI in 2007
4 years later - 38 HR - 120 RBIs
7 years to date.

So by the numbers his dad was as good if not a little player. But at the same point in both carriers (4 years after best sesson) Cecil only lasted 2 more year. And they give Prince 9 year contract?????
Hope for him its all alot of signing bonus and not so much backend deal for the 2nd half of the contract term.
The above comparison leaves out one major point -- Cecil was 27 when he had the breakout year you cite -- Prince was 23. A 27 year old player would be expected to break down four years sooner than a 23 year old.
That being said, can't see the Tigers getting value for the full nine years, but for the next five or six maybe he could be a force.

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