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View Poll Results: Fuddjical or David?
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Old 01-12-2012, 10:42 AM
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Well, Barry, I don't see the point of Chris' posts. Do you think there's anyone here who doesn't know that Coach's sells garbage, or that Morales will authenticate anything.
Suppose that every few days I posted a thread called "Look! The sun came up this morning," complete with photo after photo of the sun as it rose to its zenith. Would you think that that was useful, too?
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Old 01-12-2012, 10:52 AM
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I think it's important to keep active, recent threads pertaining to these bad elements. It keeps them high in the search engine results and hopefully prevents newbies from making mistakes. It may be old news to many of us, but it's likely saving someone less experienced who may be wise enough to Google Coaches Corner or Morales before making a purchase.

I will also admit that the sheer audacity of the CC offerings are highly entertaining and usually good for a laugh.
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Old 01-12-2012, 12:18 PM
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I think it's important to keep active, recent threads pertaining to these bad elements. It keeps them high in the search engine results and hopefully prevents newbies from making mistakes. It may be old news to many of us, but it's likely saving someone less experienced who may be wise enough to Google Coaches Corner or Morales before making a purchase.

I will also admit that the sheer audacity of the CC offerings are highly entertaining and usually good for a laugh.
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Sunrises aren't directly related to the memorabilia forum. Fakes, frauds and forgeries, however audacious and obvious they may be, are.
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Old 01-12-2012, 12:27 PM
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David- fine, maybe Chris is posting the same thing again and again, I'll agree with that. But nobody is hurt by it and maybe, just maybe, somebody is being helped out. And it wouldn't be the first time something on this board is discussed ad nauseum; just check the card side and read the endless minutiae that the T206 guys come up with each day. I'm just waiting for them to start analyzing the different edges when they run out of other topics. Yes, there is redundancy on the board.

And if you posted every day that the sun rose, you wouldn't be hurting anybody but you wouldn't be helping either. Again, you may not care for Chris's posts, but I see no reason to be critical of them.

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Old 01-12-2012, 12:44 PM
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They're not redundant, Barry. To quote Basil Fawlty, they're "bleedin' obvious." It's almost as if someone on the card side kept posting about certain '33 Goudey auctions, and warning that the cards are reprints. When you look at the photos he's posted, though, you see that each card has "reprint" printed clearly on the back. How long before that got old?
(And if you believe these items are entertaining, why not just checkout CC's site yourself.)

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Old 01-12-2012, 12:59 PM
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Again David, a lot on this board does get old. That's the nature of the beast. I just ignore it.
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Old 01-12-2012, 12:59 PM
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Hey Chris, thanks for responding. I just wish we had a better way to not only "out" the people that are selling the crap, but also privately have discussions between multiple members on the good and bad of certain autographs. The knowledge base we have here is fantastic, but sharing the info without the wrong people getting it is problem. I'm curious what will happen when Ron Keurajian's book comes out. Will it help the good guys or bad guys more.
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Old 01-12-2012, 01:06 PM
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I have to agree with Barry, that things do get old on the board pretty quick, and it is the nature of the beast. I know that when I first came on I tried to come up with some different topics like "Who has the nicest signature", "How do people catalog their collections", "What will happen to your collection when you're gone", stuff like that. But at the end of the day, there's not much new under the sun. I sometimes sit around trying to think up some interesting sub-topics that we could explore, but really it getting pretty tough to come up with anything original. I'm just thankfull we're not discussing off center autographs or soft corners on a 3x5
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Old 01-12-2012, 01:09 PM
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I have to agree with Barry, that things do get old on the board pretty quick, and it is the nature of the beast. I know that when I first came on I tried to come up with some different topics like "Who has the nicest signature", "How do people catalog their collections", "What will happen to your collection when you're gone", stuff like that. But at the end of the day, there's not much new under the sun. I sometimes sit around trying to think up some interesting sub-topics that we could explore, but really it getting pretty tough to come up with anything original. I'm just thankfull we're not discussing off center autographs or soft corners on a 3x5
If they start discussing soft corners on 3x5's I am outta here ).
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Old 01-12-2012, 05:12 PM
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First & foremost, I am on no one's side but the collector. I fume when I see the FDE endless rubberstampers and I fume when I see issue after issue with abc's. I really find it so hard to believe that there are 2 sides to this???? REALLY 2 sides????? I am on both sides! If you are not on both sides of this argument, for the collector, I’m sorry that you are a short sided narrow minded fool. I am for Justice and integrity. It's how I've lived my life and run my business and I really have no use for anyone who doesn’t live their life this way. I just don’t have time for negativity.

I believe it's the reason my business is successful and it affords me the opportunity to collect worthless balls and photos and be able to spend time following these blogs. I took the direction of the lowly Mantle collector because I figured I had a handle on that 1 autograph alone and don't trust anyone but myself, not that I just love Mantle that much (LOL). I figured I wouldn't get burned knowing what I've learned.

I admit, my frustration with these issues sometimes gets the best of me and I get more cantankerous than other times. Mostly my days are filled with joy and laughter.....and that's the way I've lived my life.

My frustrations with this hobby have grown to new, higher levels lately. As soon as there is a little bit of a lull in my business, I'm planning on scanning and taking photos of everything for purposes of selling and leaving the hobby I have enjoyed. I'll be adding to my newest collection….. Crisp Ben Franklins!!! I will keep a few personal pieces on my office walls that have been framed and everything else is outta here, never to enter back into this mess again.

After that, maybe I'll by another Corvette, just to drive to the bank. Or maybe, I’ll leave my grandkids the Ben Franklin Collection instead of all this garbage that is cluttering up my safe. I hope that this helps shine a light on what 1 collector thinks about all this and this 2 party autograph system.
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Old 01-12-2012, 05:16 PM
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Chuck, whatever you decide to do, I wish you only the best. And I will always appreciate and remember that you always supported me when I was getting hammered by the bad guys for my YouTube videos.

Christopher
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Wow. I've missed alot, I never even knew this Fuddjcal was another member here. I thought it was a nickname for Chris or Richard... Guess I need to pay attention more, cause I never seen your posts before. lol
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Hate to see ya go Chuck.
Your posts always were direct and to the point and always made me laugh.
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Why leave the hobby? it's just getting interesting!
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Wow. I've missed alot, I never even knew this Fuddjcal was another member here. I thought it was a nickname for Chris or Richard... Guess I need to pay attention more, cause I never seen your posts before. lol
Brock - you should do a search for some of Fuddj's old posts. They are very funny and informative. The man has a sense of humor.
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Brock - you should do a search for some of Fuddj's old posts. They are very funny and informative. The man has a sense of humor.
Not only is Fudd funny and informative, but he really does hate the bad guys and pulls no punches.
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