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Old 01-08-2012, 05:05 PM
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sigh.... as a Lou Brock collector I now have another search I have to do...

John Travolta Dynamite magazine.....
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Old 01-08-2012, 09:01 PM
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sigh.... as a Lou Brock collector I now have another search I have to do...

John Travolta Dynamite magazine.....
That's how I felt when I found my first Carew in a '79 issue of Dynamite. It's a real pain because sellers rarely list which cards are in the magazine if they haven't already been ripped out.

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...amite+magazine

Checking a previous thread we had on these, it would seem you have at least a couple other Brocks to chase.

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Old 01-09-2012, 10:44 AM
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Been wanting a 1982 Cal Ripken All Star Program insert for a while now. Finally found one cheap on checkoutmycards..
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Old 01-09-2012, 11:08 AM
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Picked this up last month, but finally got a chance to look at it properly. The scan doesn't do it justice, the colors are deep and saturated and the registration is better than some of the '53 singles I have. I have a few uncut sheets but this one is my new favorite.

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Old 01-09-2012, 11:31 AM
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Nice pick-up, David. I didn't even know that one existed. Is it a punch-out "card" similar to the SSPC cards from the 1978 All Star Program?
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Old 01-09-2012, 11:48 AM
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Phil, all I know is that it's hand cut, unnumbered, with a bi-lingual write-up on the back because the game was in Montreal. Other than that, I don't know much about the set. I just knew it was a Ripken that I didn't have.

Here's a link to an ebay auction of the full program with photos of the insert pages..http://www.ebay.com/itm/1982-MLB-ALL...item1c143e76cb

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Old 01-09-2012, 01:49 PM
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Anthony - Congratulations on a fantastic pickup.

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Picked this up last month, but finally got a chance to look at it properly. The scan doesn't do it justice, the colors are deep and saturated and the registration is better than some of the '53 singles I have. I have a few uncut sheets but this one is my new favorite.


That's a beauty. I love the Mantle at the bottom. Nice pick up
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Old 01-09-2012, 04:02 PM
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Anthony-that might be the single nicest pickup I've seen-holy moly!
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Amazing Anthony
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Old 01-13-2012, 01:35 AM
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That's a beauty. I love the Mantle at the bottom. Nice pick up
Check out the Big Bear in the second row - have always loved that card.
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Old 01-13-2012, 06:17 AM
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Nice pickups Patrick. Love the Munson!
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Old 01-13-2012, 01:30 AM
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Anthony - The 1953 Bowman pickup is fantastic - best uncut sheet of that vintage I've ever seen, and the presentation is beautifully done. Congrats.
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Old 01-16-2012, 08:10 AM
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Picked this up last month, but finally got a chance to look at it properly. The scan doesn't do it justice, the colors are deep and saturated and the registration is better than some of the '53 singles I have. I have a few uncut sheets but this one is my new favorite.

Should be another thread, I know, but examining this sheet closely, I had to wonder: even if this 32-card sheet was cut down from a larger 64-card sheet, why does it have at least two sides that are handcut? You can see very uneven cutting on the left side near Reese and along the top above Minoso. I doubt it would have anything to with Bowman's earlier problems with the 1952 football cards, as that involved a 36-card sheet that was too large for the 20-inch press. So, maybe someone just decided to cut more than one side of this sheet for some strange reason?
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Old 01-16-2012, 08:56 AM
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I have heard from kids or nephews of at least three Zabel Brothers employees as a result of my blog and all of them indicated that sheets were brought home for them to play with and that in most instances they cut them down themselves.

Here's a comment I got a while ago on my Zabel Brothers post, I have received similar message from other family members as well to this effect:

"Bowman baseball cards were printed by Zabel Brothers Co., Inc., at 5th and Columbia Avenues in Philadelphia. Later the same company printed the Topps cards. My grandfather William E. Zabel, Sr. was the President of the company and my uncle William E. Zabel, Jr., was the Vice President. The company's plant was quite large and they had maybe three dozen presses of various sizes and vintages. I seem to remember being told that it was the largest printer in Philly.

I was 8 years old in the summer of 1951 and my grandfather made a present to me of a full set of uncut sheets of the 1951 Bowman baseball cards which I thumb-tacked to my bedroom walls in our summer house in Ocean City, NJ. He gave me full sets of sheets of all Bowman cards through 1959 or 1960. I kept them in my closet along with individual cards (Bowman and Topps) that I also collected and traded with friends.

The Bowman cards were printed on a German-made multi-color press (I think it was a Heidelberg)from zinc plates, one for each of 4 ink colors. Before printing actually began. the press ran a sheet through each color, one at a time. I once had a full set of sheets of the 1953 Bowman cards of 1 color each (yellow, blue, magenta and black I think).

Like so many of us, my mother tossed all of my collection into the trash one year when I was in college, probably 1965.

In 1962, I had a summer job at the printing plant. For the most part I was relegated to compacting printers waste in a hot and humid basement room. But my uncle gave me a really dirty job going through thousands of the accumulated zinc printing plates in a HUGE basement storage area, cataloging them, and then deciding which ones to keep (for possible later reprinting) or throw out (because who would ever want to reprint them?). The plates were from maybe 20 years of all of Zabel Brothers full color jobs). I found the zinc plates of the Bowman and Topps baseball cards (one plate for each color). We decided that there would never be a reason to reprint the same sheets as the players change every year. So we threw them out. (Actually I think they were sent to a scrap metal dealer so it is possible they survived someplace, though I doubt it.) We didn't have any inkling that the value of the cards would increase over time, we just assumed old cards were worthless and kids would only want the current year's players. Not much foresight......

I can't tell you the year that Zabel Brothers took over printing of Topps cards but it would have been in the mid-to-late 50s."
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Old 01-17-2012, 01:26 PM
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Hunts Bread 3000 hit batters and aftermarket Kelloggs 3-D retail pack of some sort with Lou Brock on the front. I've seen aftermarket Topps packs, but never Kellogs, does anyone know anything about them? The other cards in the pack are Santo, Short, Beckert, Hisle, and Hundley.
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Old 01-18-2012, 03:47 PM
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"I have heard from kids or nephews of at least three Zabel Brothers employees as a result of my blog and all of them indicated that sheets were brought home for them to play with and that in most instances they cut them down themselves.

Here's a comment I got a while ago on my Zabel Brothers post, I have received similar message from other family members as well to this effect:......"

Dave: Thanks very much for your input - fascinating stuff indeed.
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Old 01-19-2012, 07:11 AM
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I picked this one up! I always wanted a 1953 Topps wax pack.
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Old 01-19-2012, 07:45 AM
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Great pack. That was a tough one for me. Only 54, 56 and 58 seemed tougher
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