Now I know where Coach's Corners crap goes

[travrosty]

many of these most popular companies authenticate using the super burger fast food concept of authenticating. you bring in your item to a show, someone wholly unqualified to look at it looks at it, issues a cert for a bogus item, spelling the name of the athlete wrong in the process, and it is all suppose to be good?

they adopted the certification system that fit their pocketbooks the best, not the one that serves the customer the best. art authenticators dont set up at an art show and promise a two hour turnaround on your salvador dali or picasso. If they did and called a Picasso a Picolo or a Dali a Danby, all hell would break loose, but authenticators can call a james jefferies a james Jeffers, or the can say that a bat was used by thurman munson, and his teammate sandy alomar jr. (should have been sr. obviously), and no one seems to care and they just go on to the next authentication.

some customers aren't interested in finding out if their piece is real, they just want the cert. to them the cert means its real. but of course a cert cant make a bad piece real, it just lets you sell it to the next guy under those auspices.

It has been 'deemed authentic'. (phrase that should be banned from our lexicon).

[mighty bombjack]

Check out this Anson. I doubt it will be up long,as it has the same AMA COA as those in the OP's links.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...E:B:SS:US:1123

[scmavl]

Looks like ol' Cap can't write his name near as well he can write an address.

[steve B]

That cancel was in use fairly early. This example is 1839.

http://www.philamercury.com/covers.php?id=9587

By 1851-57 they were using a different one, and stamps.

http://www.theclassiccancel.com/n5091.jpg

Pretty easy one. Since Anson was born in 1852 It's very unlikely he'd have written his name on someone elses correspondence.
Maybe I should set up as an authenticator? It looks really easy

Steve B

Originally Posted by mighty bombjack

Check out this Anson. I doubt it will be up long,as it has the same AMA COA as those in the OP's links.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...E:B:SS:US:1123

[Exhibitman]

Sigh...

[steve B]

Saddest part for me is that they wrecked a very nice example of an inexpensive stampless cover.

Sadder for anyone that pays the $3k for a writen on $20 cover.

Steve B

[mighty bombjack]

It's an emerging trend. Someone has been very busy signing old postcards and envelopes. Here's a Cobb with ACE COA.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ty-Cobb-Auto...76840168574664

[thetruthisoutthere]

Here it is.


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jrod3.jpg

From the same seller. Also ACE (Justin Priddy) certed.

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[Shoeless Moe]

Originally Posted by mighty bombjack

It's an emerging trend. Someone has been very busy signing old postcards and envelopes. Here's a Cobb with ACE COA.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ty-Cobb-Auto...76840168574664

So what's the going rate for a fake Cobb, Ruth and McGraw?

[Mr. Zipper]

Is there any over/under on how long before ACE/Priddy joins the ranks of the eBay banned along with STAT, Morales, Frangipani, et al.?

I don't know what is taking so long with Global Authentic/Steve Sipe. Must be some behind the scenes wrangling going on there.

[sylbry]

Originally Posted by Mr. Zipper

Is there any over/under on how long before ACE/Priddy joins the ranks of the eBay banned along with STAT, Morales, Frangipani, et al.?

I don't know what is taking so long with Global Authentic/Steve Sipe. Must be some behind the scenes wrangling going on there.

Maybe Mr. Niederman, who is a member here can fill us in on future of ACE.

http://autographcertificationexperts...ask=view&id=12

[Mr. Zipper]

Originally Posted by sylbry

Maybe Mr. Niederman, who is a member here can fill us in on future of ACE.

http://autographcertificationexperts...ask=view&id=12

Apparently, the ACE expert "team" consists of Justin Priddy and Brent Niederman who is a consultant who only authenticates Joe Mauer autographs.

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Brent Niederman - Consultant Authenticator

From Hamel, MN Brent has specialized in all apects of collecting Joe mauer and Hall of Fame autographed rookie cards. He has amassed a collection of over 400 Mauer rookie cards and over over 150 autographed cards that were signed in his presence or previously certified. Additionally he has acquired over 75 Hall of Fame autographed rookie cards, highlighted by a 1909-11 T206 Rube marquard and 1933 Goudey Mickey Cochrane.

Falling in love with the sporting world at an early age, Brent played baseball all the way through college until recurring injuries forced him to leave the game and continue as a assistant coach for the team his senior year. He attended Bethel University in St. Paul, MN with a degree in Sports Management graduating in May 2009. Currently Brent is pursuing a law degree applying to different law schools around the state to further his education in that field.

Brent first started collecting Mauer at age 14 when the Minnesota Twins drafted Joe in 2001. He has attended various signing events like Twins Fest that is held twice a year to obtain Joe’s autograph as well as at the Metrodome. He has carried on this passion for over nine years and has become well versed with Joe’s signature and its variations as to the style and how it has changed over the years.

Brent is a welcome addition to the ACE staff of experts specializing in Joe Mauer autographs. He is very experienced and knowledgeable in collecting Joe’s autographs in person and has familiarized himself with the evolving strokes, pen pressure, and consistencies of Joe’s signature. Based on the style of signature Brent can typically set a timeframe in which an item was signed. His knowledge of Mauer’s signature is unparalleled within the hobby.

[RichardSimon]

Originally Posted by sylbry

Maybe Mr. Niederman, who is a member here can fill us in on future of ACE.

http://autographcertificationexperts...ask=view&id=12

Hell, I am more concerned with the present of ACE than their future.
If they keep this up, maybe they will be looking for files in a cake.

[mighty bombjack]

The seller of the aforementioned Cobb has taken it down, along with the McGraw and Ruth autos he had listed with ACE certs. This was not ebay removing them, but the seller doing so because "the item is no longer available." I wonder if he sold them offline or if something else went down.

[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by mighty bombjack

The seller of the aforementioned Cobb has taken it down, along with the McGraw and Ruth autos he had listed with ACE certs. This was not ebay removing them, but the seller doing so because "the item is no longer available." I wonder if he sold them offline or if something else went down.

Yes, the seller canceled those three auctions. I have a feeling he received quite a few emails about those auctions.

[Shoeless Moe]

and the seller took them down because he was told that ACE is not reliable (putting it nicely).

The seller said they were going to investigate them further, so good chance they'll re-emerge.

Now how do we go about getting ACE on the banned EBAY list if they are not currently. Because I suspect we are going to be seeing more garbage by them.

Can we tell EBAY that Christy Mathewson authenticated by them went for a whopping $300 bucks in an auction. That should be enough right? I know how you report an item, but how do you report a bad authenticator?

[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by mighty bombjack

Check out this Anson. I doubt it will be up long,as it has the same AMA COA as those in the OP's links.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...E:B:SS:US:1123

Bam!!! Gone!!!

[FUBAR]

anyone notice the "t" 's in the fake letter look a lot like Babe Ruth "t"s...

Makes you wonder if this person has signed so many fake ruths that he signs all the t's that way now.

[RichardSimon]

The person who might be one of the forgers of fake letters that appear in CC is probably not the same person as the one who is forging the Babe Ruth baseballs.