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Old 01-07-2012, 03:51 PM
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The problem is at the top and not going to go away any time soon. They lack mental toughness and don't have enough 'smart' players to mix with the so called 'talented' players. Without a real GM, the Cowboys will have a tough time putting the right mix of players together. The Jerry/Jimmy combo was great. The only problem was their egos. If they could have focussed on football only, they could of won a couple more Super Bowls.
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Old 01-08-2012, 07:11 AM
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I have been a Cowboys fan since growing up in the NJ suburbs in the early 80s, and I love this team despite the way they kill me almost every Sunday. I can honestly say I've never been more exasperated with this team than I am right now, and I feel like the situation is growing more hopeless with each poor-to-mediocre season.

The problem, as others have said, is NOT Romo. He was the #4 rated passer in the league this year behind Rodgers/Brees/Brady. Put him in good system, take him away from the circus and give him a good coach who can deal with quarterbacks (Andy Reid, for instance) and I bet this guy wins several Super Bowls. He feels like he is forced to make plays on almost every down because the rest of his team is devoid of playmakers, and his defense is atrocious beyond belief. So you are going to get the occasional "NO NO NO!!!" moment with Romo. But without Romo, this is a 2-14 team.

It all comes down to Jerry Jones. We are going on what - 16 years of futility and only a couple playoff wins in that timespan? The one constant is Jones. Most GMs get the chance to pick maybe 2 coaches, and if they don't succeed, guess what? The GM is fired. Not Jerry, he's on his 7th coach and you see the results. Garrett and his poor decisions are directly responsible for 3 Cowboys losses this season. I wish Jones would have enough self-awareness to see he is the problem, he is not a good evaluator of talent, and just swallow his pride and call up Jimmy Johnson and apologize. Of course that will never happen, and this team will continue to wallow in mediocrity or worse.

The worst part of all this is I fear it will continue for the next 75-100 years, as clearly the Jones succession plan is in place with his sons and grandsons.

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Old 01-08-2012, 09:45 AM
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I don't think Romo could take ANY team all the way through the playoffs to the Superbowl - he would stumble at some point. I'm not saying he's a bad quarterback, but you don't make a good playoff run just because of your qb rating, and you you generally don't do it with a qb like Romo, even if you've got a great team.

I could be dead wrong about this, but with all the other problems (offensive line, secondary, Jones in general) the Cowboys aren't giving us a chance to find out.
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Old 01-08-2012, 10:20 AM
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Jeff Hostetler
Mark Rypien
Stan Humphries
Neil O'Donnell
Drew Bledsoe
Chris Chandler
Trent Dilfer
Kerry Collins
Brad Johnson
Rich Gannon
Jake Delhomme
Donovan McNabb
Matt Hasselbeck
Rex Grossman

All of the above players led their team to the Super Bowl and I can't imagine anyone thinking any of these QB's were all that special. Plus if you get rid of Romo, who do you replace him with. It's not like someone better is available.
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Old 01-08-2012, 12:46 PM
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Jeff Hostetler
Mark Rypien
Stan Humphries
Neil O'Donnell
Drew Bledsoe
Chris Chandler
Trent Dilfer
Kerry Collins
Brad Johnson
Rich Gannon
Jake Delhomme
Donovan McNabb
Matt Hasselbeck
Rex Grossman

All of the above players led their team to the Super Bowl and I can't imagine anyone thinking any of these QB's were all that special. Plus if you get rid of Romo, who do you replace him with. It's not like someone better is available.
Many on your list had great years the year they led their team to the Superbowl. I don't think anyone here said Romo was the only issue with the Cowboys.

But I'll make this real easy. Go back to the 1st game between the Cowboys and Giants this year. Look at what Romo has done since then. Look at what Eli has done since then. The Giants had to have wins, so Eli led them to wins. The Cowboys didn't 'have' to have a win, so Romo didn't step up. Sorry, but he didn't. You can talk all you want about his q.b. rating, but Danny White had some great 'q.b. rating' seasons as well.

That's really the best I can do - if you want to hang the Cowboy's future on Tony Romo, then you'll get 4-6 more years of the same. Obviously the Cowboy's organization is happy with Romo, or he'd have been booted two years ago, so I must be wrong.

edited to add: I'll go out on a limb here, even "IF" Jones gets the supporting cast that any team would need in order to make a serious playoff run. A better clutch quarterback 'might' (but probably not) get the current Cowboys to the Superbowl. If Romo stays and Jones does everything he needs to do to shore up the team, Romo will still not get the Cowboys to a Superbowl - another team with an equal supporting cast, but with a star quarterback (like the Saints or Packers) would knock off a great Cowboys team with Romo. Just my opinion.
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Old 01-08-2012, 01:58 PM
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Scott all of this is just our own opinions, that said I never once mentioned qb rating, so I'm not talking about that at all. It's just my opinion that he's better than the qb's on the list all of whom made it to a Super Bowl in the last 20 years.
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I have to admit i liked Romo before he had girl troubles. And i think he's better than Bernie Kosar, who won a championship(as a backup). I agree there was a lot of bad play calling and the defense is horrible. With that being said where do they go from here?
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