Vintage Cards Vs Vintage Patch Cards

[ScottFandango]

well, the market has set the value on these ruth cards and they have only gone WAY up since they were issued, not to mention you dont see them for sale very often anymore...

so even though most on this board will HATE these cards, the market has provided a significant value to these cards (also meaning that the general buying public believe these to be real)

[calvindog]

25% of the general public also thinks 9/11 was an inside job.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by calvindog

25% of the general public also thinks 9/11 was an inside job.

The same 25 percent also thinks there is still an ongoing grand jury investigation into shill bidding.

[ScottFandango]

Originally Posted by calvindog

25% of the general public also thinks 9/11 was an inside job.

i hope this is just a bad /tasteless joke on your part...surely you cant believe that...


and to clarify
I DONT COLLECT PATCH CARDS, i havent bought one in many years, its just i have a few RUTH, Gehrig, Thorpe Jersey cards that i like to break out every now and then...

guess what cards interest my non- collecting friends and family more, YUP the patch cards are way more a hit than some E90-1 SGC slabbed Hofer..

there is just something special when you can touch and feel the 100 year old wool that plastic cant match!!!

[68Hawk]

I like the vintage ones, particularly material from tougher to find HOF players because of their relative scarcity (the majority of whose memorabillia is intact, tightly held privately, and not nearly as unique as is made out). I wouldn't collect a ton of the modern stuff because then they do tend to take on that cheap dime a dozen feel...

I actually think they look pretty good, though much like all cards it comes down to the design and aesthetic abilities of the manufacturer. In the same way I'm a fan of some vintage issues, and others less so.....

I also find myself in the less likely to believe camp of the need for the big card companies to use faked memorabillia, when they can buy the authentic stuff for not so crazy prices at auction, AND not run the risk of being found out with the subsequent death of credibility in an industry that struggles to create much confidence.

Anyways....here's a couple of mine framed up

[Orioles1954]

I can't believe this is even still a topic. HOF GU cards is so 2002.

[Orioles1954]

FWIW, a couple of companies have purchased GU jerseys from our auction for their upcoming products.

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by ScottFandango

i hope this is just a bad /tasteless joke on your part...surely you cant believe that...

Was what I wrote really that difficult to comprehend?

[doug.goodman]

Originally Posted by ScottFandango

i hope this is just a bad /tasteless joke on your part...surely you cant believe that...

He was just pointing out that a certain (large) percentage of the people we see every day when we venture out into the world are complete and total morons.

A point that fits well into this thread, in my opinion.

Doug

[thenextlevel]

Look at what the Donruss paid for the Ruth home jersey. I think in the mid 200s. Now add up the price to buy all of the game used made from that cut up jersey. You'll be paying a lot more than the jersey itself. The Absolutes go between 1-2k a piece. Now add up the buttons, tag, etc. In essence, it made that jersey more valuable, and allows for more people to own a piece of history. I mean it's not like they threw it into a fire.

[ScottFandango]

Originally Posted by doug.goodman

He was just pointing out that a certain (large) percentage of the people we see every day when we venture out into the world are complete and total morons.

A point that fits well into this thread, in my opinion.

Doug

Yes, you are the moron who doesn't respect other people's OPINIONS...

[Leon]

This one isn't vintage but is on topic otherwise. Wouldn't it be cheaper to just buy the whole jersey? That being said I do believe the buyer of this would at least be getting what they think they are buying, so it does have that going for it...plus since it's not vintage maybe less folks would have a problem with cutting the jersey up? I think it's kind of neat but a bit more than I would personally pay.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2009-10-Uppe...-/180774568638




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[ullmandds]

Personally...I'm kind of a purist...I really don't like the modern cards that look like older cards...the Allen and Ginters...the T206ization of modern players, etc...I think it's lame that the card designers have to recycle old designs because they can't dream up exciting designs themselves...but this is present in most aspects of american design these days.

I like the fantasy creations of the helmar brewing company much better!!!!

Additionally...the destruction of rare and valuable old artifacts...as microscopic remnant containing chase cards is a good business decision in most cases...but a bad one for the hobby...in my opinion.

[doug.goodman]

Originally Posted by ScottFandango

Yes, you are the moron who doesn't respect other people's OPINIONS...

Scott -

I in no way am referring to you or anybody else in this thread as a moron, and I completely respect the other opinions being discussed.

In hindsight I probably should have used a different word, but remember this portion of the thread started when reference was made to 25% of the public thinking that the events on 9/11 were some sort of conspiracy. Those people are definitely morons.

Obviously, equating 9/11 and cutting up jerseys is a bit of a stretch to say the least, but there you have it.

Again, I apologize to any on the board who I offended, I think that if anybody takes a look at my posts they will see that I, like most people on the board, are happy to discuss differing opinions on many hobby subjects.

But I still hate the grading companies. Insert smiley face here.

Doug

[Moonlight Graham]

Originally Posted by ScottFandango

well, the market has set the value on these ruth cards and they have only gone WAY up since they were issued, not to mention you dont see them for sale very often anymore...

so even though most on this board will HATE these cards, the market has provided a significant value to these cards (also meaning that the general buying public believe these to be real)

actually, i see these cards on ebay and some have huge prices but never sell. and these 1/1 schemes are incredible! just because these modern cards are stamped 1/1 people think it's super rare-just crazy! i think they should have each card with a patch in it psa/dna certified-at least those of the vintage ballplayers-if not psa/dna than mears or some other reputable third party-jmo