Any Post Card experts here?

[glchen]

How about this Ruth postcard? Any ideas on the dating or whether the ebay listing is good? Link

[Bicem]

looks ok, but really hard to tell from those scans

[Leon]

Originally Posted by glchen

How about this Ruth postcard? Any ideas on the dating or whether the ebay listing is good? Link

I bought a generic Ruth PC from this seller recently that I believe is not good and will be returning. All of his other stuff he is currently selling is fake and I would bet this one you ask about is too. I am going to lunch with some friends, who are graders, in the next day or two and will let them look at the PC I have but on first glance I don't like it, or the one shown. They have that "fake rough" paper feel. Most times when someone is selling reprints/fakes then the other things they have are too. We have seen this happen time and again. regards

[VintageBall]

These were a fantasy piece intended to deceive. A postcard magazine wrote up this fake a few years ago.

They pointed out that no postcards were issued at the time with both the stadium and Ruth's image.

Robert S

[danmckee]

No good for sure Gary, stay away from that recently made fake! I will try to shut it down.

[DaveW]

There's a good website that I use that shows all the stamp boxes on postcards and when they were used. From that, you can see that this postcard was printed after 1950. The site is at:
http://www.playle.com/realphoto/

I still don't understand why they don't fake the stamp box also, but I guess that not many people know about them

[HRBAKER]

Originally Posted by Leon

I bought a generic Ruth PC from this seller recently that I believe is not good and will be returning. All of his other stuff he is currently selling is fake and I would bet this one you ask about is too. I am going to lunch with some friends, who are graders, in the next day or two and will let them look at the PC I have but on first glance I don't like it, or the one shown. They have that "fake rough" paper feel. Most times when someone is selling reprints/fakes then the other things they have are too. We have seen this happen time and again. regards

In checking his feedback, he seems to have just recently forayed into the sports collectibles business.

[rdixon1208]

I have this same postcard in a SGC 50 holder! I bought it on ebay a year or two ago for around $300. Obviously that was a big mistake. I don't know anything about postcards so in the end I know I shouldn't have bought it. I saw the SGC slab and assumed that it was good.

[HRBAKER]

Originally Posted by rdixon1208

I have this same postcard in a SGC 50 holder! I bought it on ebay a year or two ago for around $300. Obviously that was a big mistake. I don't know anything about postcards so in the end I know I shouldn't have bought it. I saw the SGC slab and assumed that it was good.

You should ask them to make you whole.
You made your purchase based on their advertised expertise.

[danmckee]

Originally Posted by HRBAKER

You should ask them to make you whole.
You made your purchase based on their advertised expertise.

Comical! But true, they should make good as you trusted their supposed expertise! That is the problem with buying stuff based on what someone who knows nothing is grading!

I suggest we should educate ourselves like we did in the good ole days and not trust ridiculous slabs created by clueless people who have been in the hobby 5 years.

[HRBAKER]

Originally Posted by danmckee

Comical! But true, they should make good as you trusted their supposed expertise! That is the problem with buying stuff based on what someone who knows nothing is grading!

I suggest we should educate ourselves like we did in the good ole days and not trust ridiculous slabs created by clueless people who have been in the hobby 5 years.

Dan you might be onto something there. A whole lot more of my collection would pass for NRMT then based on the good ole days.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by HRBAKER

In checking his feedback, he seems to have just recently forayed into the sports collectibles business.

I don't think it is going to go too well for him.

[bcbgcbrcb]

I bet that almost all semi-serious postcard collectors know about dating postcards using the stamp boxes and back designs

[rdixon1208]

The back is the same as the other one.

[danmckee]

Front doesn't look bad, the back is what matters. If the back is the same back as the ebay auction I posted, then you have a 1960s or 70s post card worth about $15.

[bcbgcbrcb]

I tend to think that this particular postcard might be an isolated example as I have submitted/tried to submit many postcards to SGC and the graders are all over the stamp boxes, back designs, etc. in an effort to accurately identify the era which the postcard was produced.

[glchen]

Thanks for the feedback, everyone. For reference, here is the other fantasy piece from the same seller.

[fkw]

ya Garry, thats the other one Ive seen, there might even be a 3rd one, but Im not positive. I knew there was at least 2 that had the Ruth images added to the fakes.
Good job bring these up in this thread too, many might not know about them as well...