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Old 12-30-2011, 05:25 PM
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Something is smelling fishy here. This is way too much of a coincidence. has anyone ever seen one actually wrapped around the candy? I just think it's too precise of a location for the size of the wrapper, for the candy to wear it down in the same spot. If the original was missing the H, all copies would too, it's easy to wear it down more or less on each of them differently so they look slightly different. As for a comment made about wrinkle lines being different, that wouldn't matter if you are aging it by creasing them differently.

Just an outside perspective, I am nowhere near an expert in this area, but I don't think print wax paper is impossible to find.
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Here's another. "H" intact but no "7"" The alignment of the lettering on this one seems to match the REA example while the lettering on the others seem to align differently. Could there have been different printings with the typesets aligned differently?
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Old 12-30-2011, 10:46 PM
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Here's an example of what I mean by the different print alignment. Not saying one version is real and the other is fake. I wish I knew. It's something I have wondered about for a while.
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that is very interesting philnap
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After the new years holiday, I'm sending the wrapper to Mr. Luckey to get his honest opinion. I've talked with REA and they wanted me to send the scans to them for someone to look at. By no means am I a scam artist. I am hoping that I didn't get scammed. I took a chance at purchasing this item and I am hoping that it's legit and that I can pass it down to my daughter. I appreciate all the feedback from everyone.
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After the new years holiday, I'm sending the wrapper to Mr. Luckey to get his honest opinion. I've talked with REA and they wanted me to send the scans to them for someone to look at. By no means am I a scam artist. I am hoping that I didn't get scammed. I took a chance at purchasing this item and I am hoping that it's legit and that I can pass it down to my daughter. I appreciate all the feedback from everyone.
I'd be curious to see what Lifson has to say. Maybe he can shed some light on these.
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A friend of mine bought both the wrapper and the 6 Ruth cards from a person in Florida about 6 years ago. After posting on Net 54, it was decided that they were fake (definately the cards). The wrapper was on wax paper and I was amazed at what some scammers would do to sell a fake. Watch out for the cards in TPG holders as well as another friend and board member purchased one in which the original was removed and one of the fake cards was inserted into the cracked holder.
On this wrapper , it appears that the jackass tried to remove the "7" and the damaged "H".
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After the new years holiday, I'm sending the wrapper to Mr. Luckey to get his honest opinion. I've talked with REA and they wanted me to send the scans to them for someone to look at. By no means am I a scam artist. I am hoping that I didn't get scammed. I took a chance at purchasing this item and I am hoping that it's legit and that I can pass it down to my daughter. I appreciate all the feedback from everyone.
Any follow up on REA's opinion based on the scan you sent them?
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that is very interesting philnap
I agree with Bilko. Outstanding detective work Phil!
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I am not positive about the whole issue. I have always thought the wrappers that are on wax paper are good. OF course I stand behind anything I sell, for authenticity, for life. I do find it perplexing concerning the hole in the same place and the slanted format shown above. The printing on my current one is very sharp too, not like you normally see in knock-off items. If the wrapper I own now is a fake then that is one very good scam. It's not like someone was going to make a mint off of these even if they aren't good. The one I sold I am sure wasn't more than $200 as well as it's replacement/upgrade was probably in that range or less. There is always the chance that someone found a way to duplicate these just as the originals were made....maybe a machine from the 1920's producing them more recently? Interesting stuff....
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Here is a close up of my wrapper of the missing "H". As you can see, it looks like the "H" was there at one time but was worn away for some reason. This is getting very very interesting.
Also great detective work Phil Nap on the slant of the text.
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