Please help, fake or real Babe Ruth

[Leon]

I don't think this is a farce first of all. Second of all I went and checked out other wrappers on the net. The ones I saw did have the 7 on them.

To the original poster. I am 100% sure I can tell in person, within 30 seconds, if it is real or not. Like Rhys said though, and I agree with, if it is not on wax type paper it is not real. If you want to send it to someone to see I will be happy to take a look at it. Email me at leonl@flash.net if you want my address and I will give it to you and you can send it on over....best regards

[ctownboy]

Sorry if I sounded cynical (I am) or accusatory (didn't mean to come off that way) but I have seen WAAAAAY to many scam artists try waaay too many things over the last few years and wouldn't put it past one to make a copy of something and then have the balls to come on the board to see if they could get people to vouch for its authenticity.

All the wrappers I saw listed on the web, from reputable sources, didn't have the number "7" on them. I just thought it odd that both wrappers shown had the same characteristics as one another but other wrappers didn't.

David

[Bugsy]

REA had a nice example a few years ago (has the 7):

http://www.robertedwardauctions.com/...21.html#photos

[earlywynnfan]

Originally Posted by Bugsy

REA had a nice example a few years ago (has the 7):

http://www.robertedwardauctions.com/...21.html#photos

It also has a perfect 'H'. I admit, when I first looked at these I wondered if the first was a copy of the Leon's. If someone finds more examples of the fakes, I wonder if they all have this? Maybe Leon can trace the chain back and see if someone unscrupulous once owned his.

Ken
earlywynnfan5@hotmail.com

[Bugsy]

Could there be a less sinister explanation for the H? I bought this one from Leon and it also has the H. damage (I have never questioned its authenticity). I know that there are a lot of fakes out there, but I also have to wonder if there was a production flaw or, according to the REA write-up, many of these came from the same find. If there were stored together, they could have been damaged in a similar way. Any thoughts?

[HBroll]

I bought this Ruth candy wrapper about 8 years ago and it is made out of wax type paper. It is also missing the "H" like the others except for the one in the REA auction.

[BrandonG]

Something is smelling fishy here. This is way too much of a coincidence. has anyone ever seen one actually wrapped around the candy? I just think it's too precise of a location for the size of the wrapper, for the candy to wear it down in the same spot. If the original was missing the H, all copies would too, it's easy to wear it down more or less on each of them differently so they look slightly different. As for a comment made about wrinkle lines being different, that wouldn't matter if you are aging it by creasing them differently.

Just an outside perspective, I am nowhere near an expert in this area, but I don't think print wax paper is impossible to find.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by ctownboy

Sorry if I sounded cynical (I am) or accusatory (didn't mean to come off that way) but I have seen WAAAAAY to many scam artists try waaay too many things over the last few years and wouldn't put it past one to make a copy of something and then have the balls to come on the board to see if they could get people to vouch for its authenticity.

All the wrappers I saw listed on the web, from reputable sources, didn't have the number "7" on them. I just thought it odd that both wrappers shown had the same characteristics as one another but other wrappers didn't.

David

Hey David
It never hurts to be a bit suspicious. I can appreciate that. The original poster has emailed me and is going to send the wrapper to me. I saw 3-5 wrappers on the net and all of them had the 7 on them. I can only guess that if you saw some without the 7 they were either trimmed or very slightly different. best regards