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Old 12-26-2011, 07:27 AM
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Runscott didn't delete all of his posts, Tim. 17, 90, 93, and 103 are still there. And I think you know why he did it. Leon will contact him about it, ban him from the site for a while, possibly, so he might not be able to answer your question.

No doubt you guys have been busy during the holidays. Hopefully, you're done just talking about adding a section about the folks "that have advanced the hobbies (sic) knowledge of the T206 set", and you're now ready to actually add a section to your site as you mentioned previously. Please post here once you've done that. That would clue me in to realizing that it is time again for me to visit your fine site. Thanks.

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Old 12-26-2011, 08:09 AM
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Runscott didn't delete all of his posts, Tim. 17, 90, 93, and 103 are still there. And I think you know why he did it. Leon will contact him about it, ban him from the site for a while, possibly, so he might not be able to answer your question.

No doubt you guys have been busy during the holidays. Hopefully, you're done just talking about adding a section about the folks "that have advanced the hobbies (sic) knowledge of the T206 set", and you're now ready to actually add a section to your site as you mentioned previously. Please post here once you've done that. That would clue me in to realizing that it is time again for me to visit your fine site. Thanks.
While I am obviously mindful of the board, as one forum member said some time ago "every situation is different." IF someone deletes 5-6 of their posts out of a thread I think that is their prerogative. If they start deleting all of their posts they have ever posted on the board (and it is a very large amount in lots of threads), then it starts messing the board up in a big way. I am not so good with that. Scott (hi Scott) deleted a handful of his 750+ posts, only in one thread. I don't see that as too much cause for an alarm. From knowing many aspects of this situation I can safely say I am just glad I am not in the middle of the brouhaha. (love that word) Now back to collecting.....
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Old 12-26-2011, 08:21 AM
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Back to collecting..............My New Year's resolution. Thanks Leon.

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Default Elmer Flick image on Scott Forrest website

If anyone needs to know where the Elmer Flick image that is on Scott Forrest's website came from, please email me at eangyal@roadrunner.com and i will fill in the missing details. There seems to be some missing credits on that website as well. Thanks,

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I'm late to the party here but wanted to send my congratulations and thanks to those who put this site together. I read thru with great interest this morning and loved it! Thank you again for your time and efforts in putting this together!
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I've already said it but want to say it again- thank you all for putting this wonderful site together. This truly is a work of art, I am blown away.

To have all of this information at your fingertips, all condensed into this site is amazing !!! I appreciate it, and feel the owners and everyone who contributed directly to this project should be commended.

This accomplishment, and gift to all of us collectors, shouldn't be overshadowed by who is or isn't on an "about us" page. It is really disappointing to see anything negative come about in a thread , that in my opinion, is a reason to be celebrating ( at least for those of us who collect T206's ). So, I just wanted to express my gratitude and appreciation- THANK YOU !!!!!!

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Old 12-26-2011, 10:54 AM
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Old 12-26-2011, 12:04 PM
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Hey guys....here comes the scales again

please bear with me....and read ....



I just want to start off by saying, the site is great for all and our hobby alike....we all need a joint effort and contribute to the knowledge of t206 and unlock some of the many, many , many mysteries as we all know, which many of you have already...this is obvious to all the professional collectors here....stop any bad information and corruption that tarnish our hobby and turn new collectors "off"....we all make mistakes...lets learn from them..

I am really don't know where to start, but i am thankful and blessed to be able to pick up a few cards in t206, which pretty much is an obsession as some of you know me, this set is all i collect......i am humble to some of our veterans here and would like to thank all of you have contributed to my knowledge of the set...directly and indirectly...


i have made some great friends over the years, and have enjoyed my collecting these beauties like you wouldn't beleive.....i kept to myself for many years and just quietly looked for my cards.....like i said, over the years, and ebay handles actually be able to identify some of the guys you bid against for years , and actually could put a voice or a a face to some of these guys....or i shall say gentleman(it's the jersey in me)

Leon has set up a great forum where we can all get together, and that's net 54 which john drekker(btw-keep up with the writing john, your articles are pure nostalgia)...got me hooked on in 1999 i beleive and i am lurking on this thing constantly.....


The collectors who i consider close my "dudes" that i care more than cardboard about include(and i am leaving out alot)....John Drekker, Jim Rivera, Jantz Mike Healer, Jamie Blundel, Hank Levy, Dan Allread, Mac Wubben, Brian Weisner, Art M. , John M(wonks), Erick Summers, Turner Engle, Dan Mckee, Scott F., Trae R., Chris Browne, Clayton Jessup charlie, honestly i am leaving out so many ......


...i collect, rarely sell, and am not looking to make money off anybody, and i am sure everyone here can verify this, so i am giving as much of a non-bias opinion as truly possible.....although some of my "dudes" are owners/major contributors to the site....

Barry Sloate, Frank Wakefield, Ted Z., Barry Arnold, scot reader and so many more veterans i only chat on the board with deserve so much as they have contributed much beyond measure...



Listen....


Scott Forrest...is one of the , i consider, the man on t206.....he is one of the guys who got me hooked on the freaks many years ago along with Art M.(ask them)....and i passed up several freaks he gave me an opp to buy and i didn't and am still trying to get them!(downey overprint, dorner double stamp) just 2 name two......


I was excited to see scott come back, so SCOTT .......you know you are the man....i feel sadened by what i was reading......scott you have done so much, i'm sure all of this is a huge misunderstanding.....



Tim i don't chat with at all, but Jim is my boy, if he says Tim intentions are there, and what i have read of tim he has been dead on(except my chance sov 460 has fact magenta all over it!!!gotta see it)i support the site 100 %....and i know everyone who deserves credit will be given it.....in some way, because we are part of t206 advancement and the hobby...


the site is still brand new.....i am sure we will all have a page at some point, or showcased collections....the major early and latter works will im sure be well spelled out at some point.......these guys imo are only there for one passion............T206.............i have already as, im sure many, our suggestions....and do not claim to have re-invented the wheel

LET IT BE KNOWN- i want no credit because i have contributed nothing directly to the collective info, i am just a freak




The monster causes many to become greedy.....when large bucks and ego comes into play....sometimes we get hurt and THAT SUX!


VETERANS, NEWBIES, And Haters/lovers....


T206 interest is only gaining momentum every year and i don't see interest dwindling......egos aside.....i know Tim and Jim will always do the right thing, and looks like they have already....lets still be able to debate, but stop and malicous attacks on each other....it's going to be a new year.....let's ALL advance the set/hobby and i'm sure one day we will all be credited for the true dissections of this set...these guys were just excited to get it out there, i can see why....let's all give them a chance to include all that im sure will be added at some point....Scott....we love your freak information/images....they are what got me hooked....i love the first back stamp i bought off you Killian pitching.....so, you know i respect and you are will always be given props....



PHEW


THANKS FOR LISTENING...



Respectfully,



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Old 12-27-2011, 02:22 PM
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Scott I'm surprised you haven't responded to this post at all, especially considering your strong position on attribution earlier in this thread.

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Old 12-27-2011, 02:56 PM
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Scott I'm surprised you haven't responded to this post at all, especially considering your strong position on attribution earlier in this thread.
I missed that post, but I will recommend that you stay out of stuff where you are clueless.

Eric must have sent me the photo originally. If you look at my page, you'll see credits everywhere. Quite obvious that I have not intentionally left anyone out.

But, yeah I get it - you want to get the flame going. Flame on buddy.
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Scott I'm surprised you haven't responded to this post at all, especially considering your strong position on attribution earlier in this thread.
I have dog in this fight but you probably need to put your full name out here per the rules....thanks
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If anyone needs to know where the Elmer Flick image that is on Scott Forrest's website came from, please email me at eangyal@roadrunner.com and i will fill in the missing details. There seems to be some missing credits on that website as well. Thanks,

Eric Angyal
Please, Eric, just post all the secret details. I'm sure it's movie-worthy.

Anyone else?

I mean, while we're at it - let's just have an all-out virtual rumble.

What other credits am I missing, other than yours?

Once again, I've gotten a former friend all butt-hurt because I voiced my opinion of Saint Tim. Yeah, I know - I have 'website envy'.
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My scans are available for any use that aids collectors and no mention of thx needed.

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Now it all makes sense. Just found that Eric Angyale is one of the first names in T206Resource's credit page. No wonder he decided that we have suddenly become enemies and he now needs to join the 'you've got website envy' youngsters.

Okay, Eric - this is the best I can do. I'll leave it this way until you feel that you have been appropriately credited for your vast efforts.

http://t206themonster.com/T206Origins.html
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Old 12-26-2011, 10:40 AM
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Runscott didn't delete all of his posts, Tim. 17, 90, 93, and 103 are still there. And I think you know why he did it. Leon will contact him about it, ban him from the site for a while, possibly, so he might not be able to answer your question.

No doubt you guys have been busy during the holidays. Hopefully, you're done just talking about adding a section about the folks "that have advanced the hobbies (sic) knowledge of the T206 set", and you're now ready to actually add a section to your site as you mentioned previously. Please post here once you've done that. That would clue me in to realizing that it is time again for me to visit your fine site. Thanks.
That would clue me in to visit your site....oh brother give me a break.

Yes guys please please hurry and do what Frank asks so he can visit your site, without Frank being able to visit and be happy with what you have done we are in a holding pattern. After all having Frank Wakefields kudos means everything in this hobby in case you didn't know that.

If you don't do what he says there's a very good chance he continues to cry and moan and kick his feet and hold his breath in cyberspace all by himself.....wait now that I think about it who cares.

Frank stop crying about what others have done or the way they did it and do something yourself already. How about make your own site or sit on your hands already.

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Frank stop crying about what others have done or the way they did it and do something yourself already. How about make your own site or sit on your hands already.

John
John, you are missing the point - we AGREE with you that it is a great site.

Frank has been very clear in making his point, and like me, had to repeat his points in various forms in hopes that you guys would read and understand. You have not.

Frank has done a LOT of things himself, as have many of the rest of us . Those ideas and that research is for the most part now residing on T206Resource.com, and in the future everything T206 will certainly be funneled through that site, for the new owners of everything T206 to do with as they wish. I guess that's good...if you are them. The rest of us will see our contacts begin to dry up, as I already have - T206 origin photos already now go to Tim. That's fine - I'm Joe's Feed Supplies to Tim's Wal-Mart, which is the way things go. I completely understand. As far as the rest of 'their' site information goes - it is FINE to publish the work of others, but only if you acknowledge this. Gazillions of people have successfully pulled off the acknowledgement problem. If you want an example, look at my 'T206 Errors' article and the bylines, or at the acknowledgements on my 'T206 Origins' page. It is simple....if you want to do it. And hey, most of you consider me an a-hole - well, if an a-hole can do it, a saint like Tim can certainly pull it off.

Those of you who have published nothing, created no websites, contributed very little to T206 research (not you, John, but the others who are dropping the 'envy' bomb) - yeah, I get how you have no complaints about the work of others being gathered by these guys. Why would you? Sit back and enjoy.

We will continue to enjoy this hobby, despite the unnecessary drama (some of which I am guilty of contributing to). This will blow over and in a few weeks I will give Jim a call, and probably Art, and see what their thoughts are - pleasant discussions expected, as always. I'm really kind of stunned that they are involved in this project with Tim - they could have certainly done it without him.

And Tim, before you build another straw man for use in dancing around my comments, please note that I won't even do you the courtesy of reading them. You wore me out with your tap shoe routine last night.
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Old 12-26-2011, 12:37 PM
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Nice, John V. Thanks for that, and safe holidays to you.

John M, once you hammer in the point about me being a cry baby, and that you yawn and care not about what I think or say... then let's get to the point about origin of material and acknowledgements. That's the point. What about that? And then, once you explain about how the 'resource' site needn't acknowledge anything, after that, then you can recount the times I've called you names and stuff like you've just done to me. By doing that, how does that make your position reasonable?
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Never called you names Frank just said I care not about your thoughts. I think you sound like a guy with sour grapes here and I disagree with your constant moaning. We get it you think they need to add names you have said that we get it. Why do you need to say this over and over?

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Scott and Frank, and safe and happy holidays to you !!.....your welcome......

I agree with Scott, John and Frank hope you guys settle.....John call me


Scott,

you really got me going with that error article you wrote on the errors.....and i can't thank you enough!! most of my error collection you are responsible for giving me inspiration.

You are an intergral part of t206, period. BAR NONE!! your name doesn't even need to be in print to have collectors know the invaluable insight you have given over the years...i am grateful....and hope this all gets settled....i really do...like i said, jim r is my boy and i know he always does the right thing...if i couldn't count on that dude, id quit collecting these



when i saw you posting again, i was really stoked!!btw....i love your avatar! i want that card but, chris loves it aLso, i have really come to like chris browne..so he has first dibs, but can i next??


OUR VETERANS WILL NOT BE FORGOTTEN, JUST CREDITED WHERE DUE!!! I'M SURE



Scott,

please continue on your t206 error research if you can...


would be nice to read your website!! we won't forget about the mom and pops, that's what built our great country...



Peace


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I discovered the image for Roy Ellam's T206 card about 5 years ago.

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I no longer own this postcard and can't recall who I sold it to, but just wanted to let you know that this image is out there.
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I like the website, they list the Carrigan as a possibility in a CB back and I'm good with that,(still a $100 reward for one to purchase in any condition). Any resources for collectors is great and can only be looked apon as another tool for us to use.

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