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Old 12-19-2011, 10:06 PM
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Dan/Greg,

As Andrew said a couple of posts after mine, it's all about communication. The seller chose not to communicate with me and I couldn't communicate with him. There's a difference.

The seller could have attempted communication although I couldn't have responded anyway. At that point, he would have had the right to file the NPB. I would have just chalked it up as a misunderstanding. However, he didn't try to initiate communication, instead he filed an NPB as soon as he could. Sorry if the two of you just don't get that.

Oh, and one more thing guys. From the seller's own auction: "Payment is through PayPal only and due within 24 hours of the auction's end." You want to rip me for leaving a negative for this seller, let's hear you defend the seller's payment expectations.
Sorry, you are absolutely wrong on this. Filing the NPB IS A FORM OF CONTACTING YOU! It isn't an immediate strike against you as you still have time to pay for the item, and if you pay POOF! the NPB that was opened gets closed and there is no more record of it. Just pay the man the money you owe him (which is what you agreed to do when you bid) and move on with your life. I'm sorry you had the medical problems but being a d-bag to a seller that did absolutely NOTHING wrong is just plain mean! Those of you that haven't sold on ebay much do not understand how slanted everything is towards the buyers, it's absolutely comical! For example, how a buyer can leave a low DSR on "shipping costs" which is spelled out directly in the listing is crazy! The sellers that leave a "false positive" feedback only to ding you on the DSR's (and potentially cost the seller a few hundred bucks a month by not qualifying for the 20% discount in fees) are the most annoying people on the planet... they are like the "friends" that are nice to your face but say crap behind your back. Ebay is madness and this situation with David may be one of the single worst examples of "Buyer Bullying" I have heard about. Grow up...move on...and funnel the energy to a cause that is worthwhile.

I sell quite a bit on ebay and I am very patient with buyers. I usually do not initiate a NPB notice until the 10th day that the item has not been paid for at the earliest, I personally would not have initiated that on the 4th or 5th day but that is up the the seller as they are totally within their rights to do so. I do not do ebay to make a living, I do it merely as a well paying hobby that allows me to free up money to buy things I like better than what I already have (and I don't have to clear it with the Mrs. ). That fact probably allows me to be more flexible than most as I'm not running a business based on turn-over or cash flow.

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Old 12-20-2011, 08:06 AM
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Sorry, you are absolutely wrong on this. Filing the NPB IS A FORM OF CONTACTING YOU!
Sorry, but the NPB is no more a form of communication than an INR. In other words, I wouldn't just file an INR w/o contacting the seller first. Likewise, the seller souldn't file a NPB w/o contacting the buyer first. Communication is for BOTH parties. But if you still think that way then that is your opinion and you're certainly entitled to it.


Rob, to answer your question, I didn't say that I didn't like the seller's terms, I'm just saying they're unreasonable although I would have complied had I been able.
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Old 12-20-2011, 08:51 AM
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If seller's were permitted to leave negatives or even neutrals I suspect that David might not be resorting to this extreme a reaction.

The Unpaid Item Case being opened on the 4th day after the close of the auction is an option eBay affords sellers and it is done as a reminder without any impact to a buyer's standing on eBay. Nobody likes to be reminded they owe money but what other options are there? The notices are sent as a convenience to the seller. Unless a buyer has a massive want list (and budget) I suspect sellers are offering far more items in a month than most buyers acquire in a month. I think it is unreasonable to expect a seller to also take the time to send out notices to buyers to remind them payment is due. I have but sometimes I forget which is why the automated notification by eBay is helpful. A seller has communicated to a buyer by virtue of their terms in the auction listing. If a buyer does not read that whose fault is that?
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How is paying for something that you agreed to buy within 24 hours unreasonable?
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Old 12-20-2011, 09:27 AM
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How is paying for something that you agreed to buy within 24 hours unreasonable?
Pretty easy with no money in Paypal !!!
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I don't see anywhere on the auction I won that said it had to be paid in 24hrs or 3 days or 7 days nothing at all so the balls to file a npb on me. Rob PS I am still thinking of leaving a neg on this guy so everyone knows what happened and they have a right to know
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I don't see anywhere on the auction I won that said it had to be paid in 24hrs or 3 days or 7 days nothing at all so the balls to file a npb on me. Rob PS I am still thinking of leaving a neg on this guy so everyone knows what happened and they have a right to know
It's not fair to leave him a neg and now you are getting a little unreasonable, I understand why you are upset but it goes both ways.
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I love it when people ask for opinions and discard responses not in line with what they want to hear.
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Old 12-20-2011, 10:37 AM
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He did not state ANYWHERE when he wanted payment by and I do not live on the computer like some of you guys do it was over a weekend and some of us have a life other than Ebay. Rob PS tomorrow is the third day boy I hope it comes in the three days

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I don't see anywhere on the auction I won that said it had to be paid in 24hrs or 3 days or 7 days nothing at all so the balls to file a npb on me. Rob PS I am still thinking of leaving a neg on this guy so everyone knows what happened and they have a right to know
Can anyone post a linky to the auction. I would like to see it.
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I don't see anywhere on the auction I won that said it had to be paid in 24hrs or 3 days or 7 days nothing at all so the balls to file a npb on me. Rob PS I am still thinking of leaving a neg on this guy so everyone knows what happened and they have a right to know
This seller has 100% feedback and is rated as a top rated seller which means he gets a discount on his selling fees and you want to wreck that because he filed a NPB alert after 4 days of non-payment because he didn't state that in his auction? Even if not stated it is ebay's rules that a buyer should pay in 4 days or is subject to a NPB alert being filed where they will have another 4 days to pay..you get 8 days to pay.

Just so you know because you are obviously not a seller on ebay that your action could cost him hundreds of dollars...I don't know the seller, but a few hundred dollars to me is not chump change...it's a couple weeks worth of groceries for my family.

This is the result of ebay's war against sellers...whiny crybaby buyers who will leave negatives and low DSRs out of spite..it is the reason that ebay is suffering and sellers are leaving in droves.
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Old 12-20-2011, 11:29 AM
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After going back in the auction I think I missed it and can't seem to find this claim . Can someone point that out to me, I am sure I am just not seeing it?

From the seller's own auction: "Payment is through PayPal only and due within 24 hours of the auction's end."

http://www.ebay.com/itm/180771240312...ht_1256wt_1185


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