T206 Drum Red Cobb on Ebay tonight

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by Blunder19

The ultra rare 1 of 1's. Or 1 of 2's You take however you can get in my opinion. It's a Cobb drum back. That's a pretty cool card. As long as it's not rebacked or color added. Which I don't think that one was. Just trimmed and someone tried to round the corners.

What would it have sold for if it was a psa1? I'd guess probably around 15-16k?
Jamie

You don't consider a partially re-drawn back to be the same as 'color added'?

The main thing is that you have no idea what is behind the 'Authentic' designation....but I've already said that

Hopefully you won't some day find yourself with a pile of '1vof 1' or '1 of 2' cards and every single one of them has an 'authentic' designation and every card in your pile has been trimmed, the edges rebuilt, color added or backs re-drawn, etc., etc. - I seriously think such a collection would actually make you nauseous.

[Leon]

FYI, I received a call earlier today from the consignment company, JustCollect, concerning this auction. They told me they contacted the buyer to make sure he is still comfortable with the card given it's past or they could cancel the sale. The JustCollect exec also feels more information could/should be put on the flips. We are in agreement .


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[sb1]

The back has not been redrawn or color added, it simply had a piece of paper crud soaked off of it, probably from another card stuck to it.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by sb1

The back has not been redrawn or color added, it simply had a piece of paper crud soaked off of it, probably from another card stuck to it.

I didn't realize that you had seen it. You can't tell from the scan, and we have multiple 'former' board members who have proven themselves capable of such alterations (or have access to such resources)...and PSA, GAI and SGC have all had such cards passed by them to end up in numbered slabs.

All I'm saying is, it's not unheard of for such a card to actually get by the graders and end up with a numbered flip, so you figure just about anything could end up in an 'AUTH'.

[sb1]

I have seen the before and after, that's all I need.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by sb1

I have seen the before and after, that's all I need.

I would only need to see the 'after', but without the plastic. At my age, I'm finding that the plastic can hide a lot.

[sb1]

While I can't say with certainty, I would venture there is a pretty good chance that the buyer knew the past of this card and bought it with that knowledge, maybe not, but probably, he may be a board member for all I know.

I may be in the minority but I prefer the later version rather than the former, the corners "look" more natural and the paper on the back is gone. The card is trimmed either way and there's not much room to go lower on the grading scale than AUT, but the eye appeal has been improved in my opinion. Now, would I have spent a chunk of change on it, probably not, but if the price were right I would not condemn it to the uncollectible status.

As they say "it is what it is".

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by Leon

FYI, I received a call earlier today from the consignment company, JustCollect, concerning this auction. They told me they contacted the buyer to make sure he is still comfortable with the card given it's past or they could cancel the sale. The JustCollect exec also feels more information could/should be put on the flips. We are in agreement .


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Cool.

By the way, I acquired an 'AUTH' SGC card as part of a large lot, and I stuck it on ebay. I have mixed feelings about it. It's a low-value card and it's obviously been trimmed - a designation of 'TRIMMED' would be completely appropriate in my opinion. For the red Cobb, the flip should say, 'MA' for 'multiple alterations'.