T206 Drum Red Cobb on Ebay tonight

[HobokenJon]

So what does that say about PSA and its "authentic" grade, if the company is willing to call something authentic that has had obvious restoration done to it within the past two years? In this instance, for all we know, the card has been re-backed at least in part.

[steve B]

I think with all grading companies "authentic" means it's a real example of that sort of card that's been altered or has some other aspect that means they can't give it a number grade.

It's certainly a T206 Drum Cobb, and it's certainly been altered. SGC gave it an A for authentic when it was merely trimmed.

Personally I prefer the way stamp certificates word it. In this case it would be something like "It is genuine, trimmed, with partially redrawn back and fraudulently worn upper corners"

Much better than an A which could be altered, trimmed, recolored, rebacked, or simply a card that is original but undersize or one that has a cut that's too rough on one or more sides.

Steve B

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by steve B

I think with all grading companies "authentic" means it's a real example of that sort of card that's been altered or has some other aspect that means they can't give it a number grade.

It's certainly a T206 Drum Cobb, and it's certainly been altered. SGC gave it an A for authentic when it was merely trimmed.

Personally I prefer the way stamp certificates word it. In this case it would be something like "It is genuine, trimmed, with partially redrawn back and fraudulently worn upper corners"

Much better than an A which could be altered, trimmed, recolored, rebacked, or simply a card that is original but undersize or one that has a cut that's too rough on one or more sides.

Steve B

The 'Authentic' grade sans detail is nonsense. It's for people who have no clue what they are buying, or for those who just want a pretty slab to match all their other ones.

John D sent a very fun link to an old thread where we discussed the first such miscreant case of this very bad idea. It's worth another read:

http://www.network54.com/Forum/15365...+Jesse+Burkett

[steve B]

I agree. They can put the reason on a slip when you opt not to slab as "A" so it should be possible to include the reason on the slab.

Steve B

[Abravefan11]

The flip on the Cobb should look like the flip below.

[honus94566]

The card sold for 8889.00

Congrats to the buyer, I guess... But I agree, it sure looks like to consignor tried to pull off something shady.

[Blunder19]

Agreed... looks like the cognisnor tried to slip this in a psa 1 case... but its still an authentic Cobb drum back.. it wasnt re backed... just further trimmed to try and round the corners off...

I think it went for a reasonable price.. considering the psa 2 MK went for almost 4 times that... and this is the only other known example...

Jamie