Help with Ty Cobb signed photo's at a local auction..."Ace" Authentication?

[slidekellyslide]

Brandon, would you mind posting the link to the estate sale? Maybe if enough of us send them a note they'll do the right thing and pull the items from their sale.

ACE is located in Villa Park, Ca...where is this estate sale at? Odd that recently authenticated signatures show up in an "estate" sale.

[HRBAKER]

To me the two Cobbs signatures vary in slant and some other characteristics from each other.

[BrandonG]

Originally Posted by slidekellyslide

Brandon, would you mind posting the link to the estate sale? Maybe if enough of us send them a note they'll do the right thing and pull the items from their sale.

ACE is located in Villa Park, Ca...where is this estate sale at? Odd that recently authenticated signatures show up in an "estate" sale.

The sale is in Anaheim, CA. I didn't even notice that the date of authentication was December 5, 2011...Maybe the sellers just thought it'd be better to have a COA and didn't know ACE's history? I'm going to attach some of the other signatures, let me know what you guys think of these.

[oriolesbb6]

In this day and age its BS if an estate auction does not properly research a piece-ignorance is not a defense. If they are advertising a COA even though its a known fraud then shame on them. The only caveat would be if the auctioneer during the auction adds his own commentary to a piece(reporting faults, update condition reports, reiterates an unrecognized cert, etc...

[BrandonG]

Nobody has thoughts on these other autographs? I thought one of the guys would give an opinion on the others...

[slidekellyslide]

Originally Posted by BrandonG

Nobody has thoughts on these other autographs? I thought one of the guys would give an opinion on the others...

I wouldn't even know where to start when giving an opinion on autographs...what I do know is that if it has an ACE cert it's almost guaranteed to be bad.

[packs]

Wasn't ACE the company that certified all those fake Babe Ruth autographs that guy was trying to sell with his Mathewsons?

[oriolesbb6]

My thoughts on the other autos-all bad....What more do you want to hear?

[mcgwirecom]

Cobb on a Polaroid?? I know Polaroid has been around awhile, but that particular type of picture wasn't around til the '70's was it? My Brother had a late '60's Polaroid and they were still the peel type film. That picture is on the "blow on it" variety that came out much later after he was dead I really think. Anyone else???

[daves_resale_shop]

Gents,

Take a look a this antiques and collectibles auction... Boatload of questionable stuff all authenticated by ACE

http://www.auctionzip.com/cgi-bin/ph...&kwd=ty%20cobb

[GrayGhost]

The Speaker doesn't look too bad. The Jackie. eh. hard to say. on the A's sheet, the Grove and Hoyt..YUCH. unless they were drunk.

I defer to more expert opinons overall, but these guys rep is really pretty bad. That said, even a Broken clock is right twice a day, so they may get some right along the way too.

[Tigerden]

Originally Posted by BrandonG

The sale is in Anaheim, CA. I didn't even notice that the date of authentication was December 5, 2011...Maybe the sellers just thought it'd be better to have a COA and didn't know ACE's history? I'm going to attach some of the other signatures, let me know what you guys think of these.

I know that I wouldn't buy any of these with or without an Ace cert. The autographs on the sheet look to be done by the same hand.