Trimmed cards gaining acceptance?

[tbob]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

That's part of it...if you collect rare...obscure sets you'll most likely have to deal/live with trimmed/altered cards...whereas if you only deal in more mainstream sets like T206...it's easier to find unaltered copies.

I agree Pete and no one has mentioned that there ARE some cards which SGC gave an "A" to which might not be trimmed at all. Some factory cuts, etc. I have two examples of a particular 1912 Zeenut card, one is a 30 and the other an "A" and if you saw them both in person you would probably take the "A" all day long because it looks like an 80.

[Exhibitman]

That's true, Bob. I picked up an N150 with a nice image and an obvious factory miscut at the bottom [a chunk of the next card in it] that was graded "A".

[frohme]

Originally Posted by tbob

I agree Pete and no one has mentioned that there ARE some cards which SGC gave an "A" to which might not be trimmed at all. Some factory cuts, etc. I have two examples of a particular 1912 Zeenut card, one is a 30 and the other an "A" and if you saw them both in person you would probably take the "A" all day long because it looks like an 80.

This thread hits right on the money - I was going to raise exactly this point, and Bob beat me to it.

Some cards you can't tell, the graders can't/couldn't, and in the end, I'm not sure it matters. In the end its all personal preference, and to each his own.

While this one does not fit that mold, color me crazy but I'll take this one over a lot of numerically graded ones any day of the week. Yeah, its short, but its one of those T207's that doesn't have a crack in the glazing - it just gleams.



Yes, its a sickness...

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by frohme

This thread hits right on the money - I was going to raise exactly this point, and Bob beat me to it.

Some cards you can't tell, the graders can't/couldn't, and in the end, I'm not sure it matters. In the end its all personal preference, and to each his own.

While this one does not fit that mold, color me crazy but I'll take this one over a lot of numerically graded ones any day of the week. Yeah, its short, but its one of those T207's that doesn't have a crack in the glazing - it just gleams.



Yes, its a sickness...

So the preference would be that the grading companies figure out how to authenticate a factory miscut, like the ones that are so common in T207s and E90-1s, and label them accordingly.

But in the absence of such skills, shouldn't there at least be a different 'AUTH' for such cards, to distinguish them from actual trims?

[zljones]

Trimmed and/or "Auth" is the just about the only way I go for 19th century cards.

[Leon]

As noted trimmed cards are being accepted more and more. As long as they are sold as trimmed, they can be good buys and valued collectibles. It's when they are sold as untrimmed there is an issue. best regards