Opinions on a Pie Traynor autograph and much more

[packs]

I am curious as to whether this photograph was submitted for authentication by an auction house.

[Scott Garner]

Originally Posted by packs

I am curious as to whether this photograph was submitted for authentication by an auction house.

Packs,
Look at the 7th post on the first page. The forged Traynor photo received PSA DNA authentication with a letter stating that it was real. Nice!!

[mr2686]

Richard, if possible, could you share with us any info that would help us tell that this is a forgery. Besides what we might not see (pen pressure, date of photo etc) is there something obvious? To the naked eye it looks pretty good although the H looks a little more ornate than usual. I don't want you to give away the farm but I'd sure like a little help if possible.

[RichardSimon]

Traynor's sig on this picture is ornate and is in felt tip pen, his signature stopped being ornate way before the felt tip pen era (which started in the 1960's). As you clearly stated in your earlier post, Traynor's ornate signature stopped being ornate way before the 1960's.
Dross probably only had ornate exemplars to work from.
When holding the picture in hand it is easier to see how labored and slowly written it is.
Also, when this scam broke I saw a few of the photos that were part of the scam and remember Traynor was one of them. I also remember Yawkey because it was so unusual to see him on a signed photo.
If memory is correct, Roush, L. Waner and Coveleski were part of this group of photos also. There were others that I don't remember but the vast majority of this scam was B&W plaks. I just found my photocopies of the plaks and will list them in a few minutes.

[RichardSimon]

The following Artvue B&W plaks were part of this forgery scam,,, they were all Mint or very close to mint.
Roush, Clarke, Wheat, Lajoie, Jackie Robinson (signed Best Wishes), Connolly, Wallace, Lyons, Baker, Vance, Rice, McCarthy, Grove, Schalk, McKechnie, Simmons, Flick, Hartnett and Walsh.
These are all the photocopies I have but I seem to remember that Speaker had also been forged, though I am not positive about that.
If anyone here owns a mint Artvue plak with a signature of one of these HOFers, send me a scan and I will give you my opinion, based on your scan, if what you have was a part of this forgery lot. My e mail is richsprt@aol.com.
It is sad that this stuff is still around,, I saw the forged Traynor picture yesterday, almost two decades after I first saw it.