December 2011 Pick-Ups

[CarltonHendricks]

I actually got these very end end of last month....but November has come and gone so I'll post it here



Above is a pair of D&M baseball cleats from the turn of the century...I got them based on I know early high top cleats hardly exsist and the sellers claim they were the best he'd handled in his career...I beleive they're the first pair of early high tops I've seen for sale...They must have been stored in a well sealed trunk as I've never seen leather from the turn of the century so supple...it's like they're brand new!...though the soles appear to have very slight wear...and the tag is mint!...phew!



The same dealer said the same thing about this melon ball...best he'd ever handled...and that got my attention...hated to spend the money but I know melon footballs...and I knew the rounded shape was very early....Sure enough when I held it I was blown away....it's the oldest football I've ever seen in person...the patina screams 1880 even though the leather is supple....Plus another big bonus was it was found at Girard College in Philadelphia...so I know it's American!!!....at least played with in America...that's a whole lengthy subject of it's own as far as imported footballs in the late 19th century...I wish I had the time to do a deep research story on it...Anyway...took me twenty five years to find a ball this good!...It's filled with some kind of polly fill to hold it's shape. I was considering having a bladder put in but may leave it as is...I was told if I took the laces apart there might be a makers mark inside...but I hate to disturb it.

The only other melon football I've seen this good was one I saw last May in the Yale trophy room...which you can read about here...that one would shut down north America!

[GKreindler]

INCREDIBLE stuff so far, guys - what a way to end the year!!

Finally got this guy in the mail, and I'm pretty darn stoked:



Obviously, it looks like a dog got its teeth around it, but as per usual, for my purposes it's wonderful. And the price was VERY right. I'm hoping it'll make one hell of a painting.

Graig

[mr2686]

Christmas must have changed to the first part of the month. I received a wonderful gift from Jimmy (TheKingofclout) today. A beautiful 1942 Type 1 movie still from Pride of the Yankees. Pride of the Yankees is my all time favorite baseball movie and this will have a special place in my collection.
Jimmy is truly one of the good guys in the hobby. Thanks Jimmy!

[CarltonHendricks]

Last Sunday I picked up the Giants pinback above at the monthly Alameda Point Antiques Fair...I researched Milton F. Kreis...turns out it was a waffle shop...smack dab in the middle of downtown San Francisco...right at Union Square...

The wording seems strange.." I like S.F. Giants in 58" "....Why did they include "in 58'"?...I speculate they may have given these pins out in anticipation of the Giants arriving from NY...I just don't know...Has anyone seen this pin before?

It was interesting to research...Milton F. Kreis had restaurants in S.F., Beverly Hills, L.A., Palm Springs, and Dayton Ohio...I beleive the one in Beverely Hills was renown...It was known as the "Milton F. Kreis drugstore and luncheonette"..and was located in the Beverley Wilshire Hotel....sounds like the kind of of lace Lana Turner was discovered.





Then researching it I came upon another interesting though quite distantly related aspect of the Milton F. Kreis San Francisco restaurant...the building it was in was the Elkan Gunst Building...The owner Mose Gunst named it after his son Elkan who died from a football injury in 1906 at the age of sixteen playing for San Mateo High....and his brother named...."Carlton" reportadley died at sixteen from the flu...

http://greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-...?msg_id=003iYP
yes, the story is true. morgan arthur gunst (my grandfather) had two brothers, Elkan and Carlton. Both of them died at age sixteen, Elkan of a football injury, Carlton of influenza (I believe). Mose Gunst had the building built in Elkan's honor. my family maintained offices in the Gunst building for many years. I believe the architect was Willis Polk.

Also, regarding the second pin that says Los Angeles...I figure that has to be a UCLA pin...the bear is the state imblem...not Los Angeles' imblem...anyone seen it before?



Also at Alameda l picked up some 70's Stanford sports posters...the best one above...on card stock....schedule poster...27x20.5 inch 1974...Guy Benjamin’s rookie year...went on the play back-up QB to Joe Montana with S.F....Bill Walsh was an assistant coach for Stanford in 74’...got that.plus three other basketall schedule posters...Everything pinbacks and posters...all for $50.00...lotta bang for the buck...Not my kind of stuff so it'll all go on eBay.

[Scott Garner]

The wording seems strange.." I like S.F. Giants in 58" "....Why did they include "in 58'"?...I speculate they may have given these pins out in anticipation of the Giants arriving from NY...I just don't know...Has anyone seen this pin before?

Carlton,
I have not seen this '58 Giants pinback before, but I would suspect that you are absolutely correct. 1958 was obviously the year that baseball and the San Francisco Giants came to northern California. Neat 1st year SF Giants pickup.

The rest of your research is pretty amazing. Cool!

[thekingofclout]

Congrats Carlton on yet another stellar pick-up!

Just got home from work and was very pleased to see that I had won this terrific 1961 Maris & Mantle Baseball Cap...

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[CarltonHendricks]

See post below...Leon, Snafu, please delete this post

[CarltonHendricks]

Scott and Jimmy, thanks for kind words...And Jimmy that Maris Mantle hat is really something...First one I've seen...if I saw that at at a flea market I'd knock over tables getting to it!!...just don't wear it while you're gardening...

I'm still hoping someone can supply more info on the pinbacks....I've never collected or known much about pinbacks...just that they're huge in the hobby...Although I did just recently get outbid on the Yellow Kid Harvard one below on eBay...There was also another one for Princeton listed. I never really knew much about Yellow Kid either till I looked into him for that pin...


Sold for $23.77 on eBay - 3 bids


Sold for $26.00 on eBay - 3 bids



Yellow Kid was drawn by Richard F. Outcault for New York City newspapers from about 1895 to 1900, as the main charater of "Hogan's Alley" comic strip...I guess it was the first newspaper comic strip but the style used was based on political cartoons of the day...and from what I can tell it was quite odd...the Yellow Kid was based on a poor kid from the slums of New York City....and spoke in garbled urban Englsih writtten on his shirt...strange but charming from what I can tell....and quite cleaver at poking fun of current events of the day....Yellow Kid fits right in with my interest in the newspaper business.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Yellow_Kid
The Yellow Kid's head was drawn wholly shaved as if having been recently ridden of lice, a common sight among children in New York's tenement ghettos at the time. His nightshirt, a hand-me-down from an older sister, was white or pale blue in the first color strips





Back to December P/U's...I forgot to include the Henry Armstrong poster below from last Sunday's Alameda Point show...so add another $20.00 to that $50.00 I spent!...Have never seen it before. Though not as renown as Joe Louis and Jack Dempsey, Henry Armstrong was a major fighter with a huge record....The seller told me it was a newspaper stand insert poster...and that The Mirror and Daily News was a Los Angeles newspaper...After a cursory search I learned from the website above that the "The Mirror and Daily News" was only named that for about one year 1954-55...and that it had preceeding and succeeding names....So that's cool I know aprox. what year it's from....The seller said he had three total and I got the last one...I think it will look real good with a black frame....little water stain but not bad.

Preceding Titles:
Daily news. (Los Angeles, Calif.) 1941-1954
The mirror. (Los Angeles, Calif.) 1948-1954
Succeeding Titles:
Mirror news. (Los Angeles [Calif.]) 1955-1960

21 1/4" x 13 1/2"

[Scott Garner]

Originally Posted by CarltonHendricks

I actually got these very end end of last month....but November has come and gone so I'll post it here



Above is a pair of D&M baseball cleats from the turn of the century...I got them based on I know early high top cleats hardly exsist and the sellers claim they were the best he'd handled in his career...I beleive they're the first pair of early high tops I've seen for sale...They must have been stored in a well sealed trunk as I've never seen leather from the turn of the century so supple...it's like they're brand new!...though the soles appear to have very slight wear...and the tag is mint!...phew!



The same dealer said the same thing about this melon ball...best he'd ever handled...and that got my attention...hated to spend the money but I know melon footballs...and I knew the rounded shape was very early....Sure enough when I held it I was blown away....it's the oldest football I've ever seen in person...the patina screams 1880 even though the leather is supple....Plus another big bonus was it was found at Girard College in Philadelphia...so I know it's American!!!....at least played with in America...that's a whole lengthy subject of it's own as far as imported footballs in the late 19th century...I wish I had the time to do a deep research story on it...Anyway...took me twenty five years to find a ball this good!...It's filled with some kind of polly fill to hold it's shape. I was considering having a bladder put in but may leave it as is...I was told if I took the laces apart there might be a makers mark inside...but I hate to disturb it.

The only other melon football I've seen this good was one I saw last May in the Yale trophy room...which you can read about here...that one would shut down north America!

Awesome pickups, there Carlton!
My one question is how the hell did someone wear those early D & M high- topped baseball spikes and yet the original tag remains intact. That's pretty incredible in it's own right!

Beautiful football and baseball spikes- first rate pickups for your incredible collection!