Very, very, interesting...

[David Atkatz]

I'm sure you've heard of building up corners, Leon. I wasn't talking about trimming cards. I was talking about restoring them.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by David Atkatz

I'm sure you've heard of building up corners, Leon. I wasn't talking about trimming cards. I was talking about restoring them.

Like I said David....stick to autos and I will stick to cards .

[David Atkatz]

Right, Leon. There are no restored cards in PSA slabs.
And this Christmas we'll all see peace on Earth and good will towards men.

(I'm sure Bill Mastro knows what I'm talking about. )

[Leon]

Originally Posted by David Atkatz

Right, Leon. There are no restored cards in PSA slabs.
And this Christmas we'll all see peace on Earth and good will towards men.

(I'm sure Bill Mastro knows what I'm talking about. )

Seriously David.....think of this as yourself in knowing autos as I know cards. I study cards and know card doctors and am personal friends with several senior graders. Do we really need to continue discussing this? It would be analogous to me telling you about Yankees autos and memorabilia.

[David Atkatz]

And I know Jimmy Spence personally. That must mean there are no forgeries with JSA certificates.

[David Atkatz]

I seem to recall a number of threads a few years back regarding restored cards being slabbed. I don't recall the names, but the guy was an expert in card doctoring, and he claimed that a great number of slabbed cards belonging to a major PSA collector and board member were almost certain to have been doctored.

[David Atkatz]

Some examples:

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...doctored+cards

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...doctored+cards

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...doctored+cards

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by David Atkatz

I seem to recall a number of threads a few years back regarding restored cards being slabbed. I don't recall the names, but the guy was an expert in card doctoring, and he claimed that a great number of slabbed cards belonging to a major PSA collector and board member were almost certain to have been doctored.

I'm with you on this one. I could post a very personal example, but I think Leon would fly to Seattle and kick me in the butt.

I think the doctored cards in slabs are a despicable aspect of card-collecting, but I still don't think it is as rampant as forgeries. Trimmed cards in slabs might be - not sure. I still have to wonder if a trimmed card in a slab is as bad as a forged autograph with an LOA. I wouldn't think so.