Derek Jeter Forgery Baseball Unbelievable!!!

[David Atkatz]

All hat, no cattle.

[travrosty]

Everyone should do it in their own way, in the way they want to. not personal. just take his opinion and get others from other people and there you go.

[perezfan]

I don't really collect modern autographs, but would also be very interested to see the Derek Jeter "style evolution" through the years. The fakes above are no-brainers, but I would be eager to see his earlier styles.

If anyone else would take the time to post the earlier variations, it would be much appreciated

[Mr. Zipper]

In my view, it takes a proactive effort. You can't become really good by passively looking at an autograph on occasion. You need to look and study a lot of autographs over time.

* Set up daily ebay searches and review the auctions. Eventually you will begin to see the differences and patterns in autographs between legit sellers and suspect items. When you see a certain signature and know what seller it came from, you know it is starting to click.

* Ask questions of experienced collectors. I've learned a lot here by simply reading the threads and asking questions via private message.

* Don't just focus on the "shape" of the autograph. That is only one part of the equation.

I have been collecting and studying space autographs for many years and have written and contributed to a number of studies. It took years of active studying and looking at thousands of exemplars. Now, I can look at certain autographs and know within a year or two when it was signed.

[mschwade]

Originally Posted by David Atkatz

All hat, no cattle.

And the barn door was just opened again

[RichardSimon]

Originally Posted by mschwade

And the barn door was just opened again

+1
This will be the only comment from me on this thread unless the thread reverts back to what it should be.

[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by David Atkatz

All hat, no cattle.

This is an open post to Leon and the other Net54 members. This thread was started by me to expose a horrific Jeter forgery and once again David Atkatz has interrupted an autograph thread with the above personal attack.

David, what motivation do you have for personal attacks? This is not the first time for you to launch personal attacks. I've done over 190 YouTube videos exposing forgeries and I expected personal attacks from the bad guys watching my YouTube videos, but I don't understand David's personal attack here. I won't launch any personal attack against David as I feel his sad actions speak for themselves. I just wanted to alert the members here that David Atkatz has started his "thing" once again.

[David Atkatz]

Originally Posted by thetruthisoutthere

I won't launch any personal attack against David as I feel his sad actions speak for themselves. I just wanted to alert the members here that David Atkatz has started his "thing" once again.

My thing?

At least three times on this forum you were asked to provide "educational" help. You either ignored the requests, or outright refused.

I've watched your videos. I've watched you consistently attack the ignorant buyers. "Morons and idiots," you call them.

Instead of name-calling, why won't you help us to learn?

[thetruthisoutthere]

For that one person who is unable to understand English, I will repeat a previous post of mine below.

I've always written and stated on video that my only reason that I write for blogs and do videos is to expose forgeries and those that sell them. That's what I do. Period.

If other knowledgeable autograph collectors want to explain why a particular autograph is a forgery or a secretarial that's great, but it's not what I do.

[David Atkatz]

We understand, Chris. Believe me, we do.

Sure would have been nice, though, to see the evolution of Jete's signature, presented by one who really knows.

Oh, well. Our loss.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by David Atkatz

We understand, Chris. Believe me, we do.

Sure would have been nice, though, to see the evolution of Jete's signature, presented by one who really knows.

Oh, well. Our loss.

In all fairness I don't think it's Chris's responsibility or duty to educate us. He is nice enough to give his valued opinion on many items. It's up to each of us to educate ourselves. I think the "all hat no cattle" comment was uncalled for but I have seen worse on the board. David, may I suggest that if you are so interested in educating the board then please be my guest. Just my half cent.

[David Atkatz]

Educate ourselves? Excuse me if I misunderstood, but I thought one of the purposes of this board was to learn from one another.

[David Atkatz]

Originally Posted by Leon

David, may I suggest that if you are so interested in educating the board then please be my guest.

I have, Leon. On many occasions.