Was this really an 1890 Players League player cabinet?

[bmarlowe1]

The ebay seller is now claiming the cabinet left is John Clarkson. He isn't.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by bmarlowe1

The ebay seller is now claiming the cabinet left is John Clarkson. He isn't.

True. Didn't even have to look at his ears.

[Matthew H]

Originally Posted by Runscott

True. Didn't even have to look at his ears.

Correct, you just have to check for his giant forehead

[HBroll]

I got this email from the seller:


i closed the clarkson auction as per questions about the item 2 emails i received. some observations as per how i do business: 1. my information specifically to these cabinet cards was provided by a well respected auction house that i assume any advanced collector would do business with without hesitation (as per myself i have been involved extensively in the hobby since 1975 when i was 9 years old..over 35 years). 2. the last thing i ever want to do is sell something that is not exactly what i say it is (feel free to review my ebay history as per items sold and as per feedback) 3. i offer 100% money back guarantee on anything i sell. 4. i provide clear multiple scans of all items i sell so the buyer can without a doubt see exactly what they are bidding on. again thanks and take care, jon

thanks howard i do not go on net54 but if you so desire feel free to post my response to this issue. againtatke care and happy thanksgiving, jon

[Leon]

Originally Posted by bmarlowe1

The ebay seller is now claiming the cabinet left is John Clarkson. He isn't.

I saw that cabinet right when it got put up on ebay. I didn't think it was Clarkson then, nor I do now. I have looked at it at least 3-5 different times. It never struck me as being very close. Hopefully these miss identifications quit. Nothing against the seller as he is a friend too....but some of his id's are way off. best regards

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by Leon

I saw that cabinet right when it got put up on ebay. I didn't think it was Clarkson then, nor I do now. I have looked at it at least 3-5 different times. It never struck me as being very close. Hopefully these miss identifications quit. Nothing against the seller as he is a friend too....but some of his id's are way off. best regards

Yeah, I don't get it. Someone must have sold it to him, telling him it was Clarkson - the seller is a great guy and I have bought plenty of cool stuff from him.

[Fred]

Has anyone brought it to the attention of the seller? I wonder if he has enough integrity to close the (faux Clarkson) auction? Do you think he'd refund the money to the buyer of the first cabinet he sold? I'd sure hope so.

[barrysloate]

Besides the fact that it is of course not Clarkson, the pitcher lived his entire life in Massachusetts and played ball east of the Mississippi. That cabinet photo was taken in California. It doesn't connect.

[bmarlowe1]

Of greater concern is the cabinet posted above by joeadcock (post #6) that has 1890 CHICAGO PIRATES written on the back. It's up to $910. I wonder who the bidders think he is.

[WillowGrove]

barry et al - been watching this item and thanks for giving me closure that I need not waste me time and money.

However, when I was doing research on Clarkson I found a site that mentioned in their biography of him that he went to out San Francisco (I think they said it was around the time he was a hold out.)

But I have checked multiple sites again and cannot find that reference.

I was up late - could have been dreaming. But assuming I wasn't, it's interesting that maybe someone not only thought he looked like Clarkson but had some facts on their side that Clarkson was actually in that vicinity of JJ Frye's studio on 2nd avenue in Chico, CA.

thanks for the research Mark and everyone. what a group we are.



peter

[barrysloate]

Peter- even if he was in California and decided to have his picture taken, it's still not him. I don't see even a slight resemblance.

[bmarlowe1]

He's still running 3 misidentified photos.

[prewarsports]

I was interested in this lot and bid where I felt comfortable at knowing that several were not legit. Had these all been legit the price would have been WAY higher than $1100 (3X-4X or more) or whatever it ended at so I think the free market already knew these were not all the players identified and the price refelcted this. As a result, I dont think a whole lot of harm was done because had they only listed the 4 legit ones and the couple of generic ballplayer poses without ID's I think the bidding actually does BETTER.

The free market worked here and the lot went for what it should have had they been identified correctly or all the bad ones simply removed, in my opinion.