T206 Cards With Provenance

[Jay Wolt]

Erick, here are two T201's of the same players that Mr. Carter & Mr. Nagy both owned

[ethicsprof]

Jay, those are great cards!! congrats.

erick, I have collected a few from Lionel Carter's collection and a few from Nagy's collection and really like having some from the grandfathers of the hobby.
I think provenance in these cases is historically illuminating for the hobby.
I also have just a few cards from some of the 'finds' in the hobby which also
give me a feel for both the geography and history of the hobby.

all the best and good luck in your pursuit of provenance,
barry

[t206hound]

Originally Posted by ethicsprof

I also have just a few cards from some of the 'finds' in the hobby which also
give me a feel for both the geography and history of the hobby.

all the best and good luck in your pursuit of provenance,
barry

I didn't think much about that, but I have several cards from the Beantown Find (Bender, J. Collins, Joss, Matty, Mcgraw and Wheat to name a few). I guess there's no proof of provenance (on the flip), but now I think I'll get my documentation together and note these as "Beanies" in my collection.

At some point I'd like to add a Nagy (Jay, that's a sweet pair). A question, if I had a Harris Collection PSA card, would SGC cross it over and keep the provenance designation?

[ethicsprof]

if you have one of the beanies with the blue box-like stamp on the back, that gives you a bit of an identifier methinks.

best,
barry

[t206hound]

I sold off any/all with the blue box stamp as they didn't fit into my collection. I have the scan from Ladder7, emails and my SGC invoice. The only issue is that I had some non-beanies in that submission... just got to sort those out.

[tonyo]

Not one of the grandfathers of collecting, but I was lucky enough to buy about 20 or so t206's on ebay last fall from a husband and wife in virginia whose uncle was the original collector of the cards I purchased.

We had a few email exchanges and I asked if I could know more about the uncle.

They sent this reply:

Tony

My uncle Robert Buchanan Owens was born in Mason County Kentucky in
1901 and passed in 1970. He was in the military, I think the signal
corp and stationed in England during WWII. His family had a English
ancestry and he enjoyed having his tea each morning, with a cut rose
on his table from his flowers. He was a Travelers insurance agent for
30 to 34 years. He and his brother Frank S. Owens must have collected
these cards together. You can go to
http://books.google.com/books?id=qPs...e%20ky&f=false
to find more about his brother Frank S. who father had a Ohio River
ferry named after him. Uncle Bob was a kind man, who with my aunt
Viola, were very involved in the community and their church. Since he
lived close to Cincinnati, the Reds were his favorite team. He was a
gardener having as I remember huge flower beds of rose. He enjoyed
golf and was an active golfer. Finally, I cannot remember many days
that Uncle Bob did not have a crisp starched white shirt, a tie, with
a sport coat or suit. I hope you children and yourself enjoy he and
his brother's baseball cards. ,,

[T206Collector]

It is great that you found my interview with Lionel Carter somewhat inspirational. I am fascinated by provenance, which is particularly important when it comes to my signed card collection. So many of my signed T206s came from the Jeff Morey collection, which is so much more important to me than JSA or PSA-DNA's approval.

One of my favorite aspects of my collection of signed T206 cards is the letter Fred Snograss wrote to legendary collector John Wagner, when he returned Mr. Wagner's T206 card with an autograph, along with a signed photo and index card. The entirety of this mini-collection is below.







(Black and white photo above was signed on back