M101-2 Sporting News supplement backs

[doug.goodman]

Thank you for the info, and the hard work, very interesting.

I've been working on the set for years (96 down, 4 to go) but have never seen an ad back.

Doug

[thegashousegang]

I don't have anything to contribute, but great work so far. I'm about 40% into the set, and no ad-backs yet.

Doug, good luck in completing your set.

[drumback]

It seems reasonable to assume the double sized team supplements will not be found with ad backs, as the ad is the same size as the other 96.

With such a small sampling of ad backs, it's really not possible to draw any clear conclusions. I'm guessing, though, that since there doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason to the players with ad backs, there are many other different front/back combinations to be found.

It would great to find out how they were distributed. Perhaps they were mailed? I wonder if the Sporting News has an archivist that could provide some answers. Seems like a long shot, but who knows?

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by doug.goodman

Thank you for the info, and the hard work, very interesting.

I've been working on the set for years (96 down, 4 to go) but have never seen an ad back.

Doug

Doug - excuse my ignorance, as I've never collected these, but why are the ad backs so tough to find (I assume, since you haven't seen any), given that they were issued for 1913? Is it because they weren't the normal ones included as supplements, but had to be ordered?

Which ones are you missing?

Just asking all these questions because I have some of these arriving in the mail some day and would like to understand the issue better.

[doug.goodman]

Originally Posted by Runscott

Doug - excuse my ignorance, as I've never collected these, but why are the ad backs so tough to find (I assume, since you haven't seen any), given that they were issued for 1913? Is it because they weren't the normal ones included as supplements, but had to be ordered?

Which ones are you missing?

Just asking all these questions because I have some of these arriving in the mail some day and would like to understand the issue better.

Everything I know about ad backs I learned in this forum, and most of that knowledge came from this thread.

I am missing the Cobb, Pittsburgh team and Detroit team from 1909, and the Cobb / Wagner from 1910.

I think all four of them might be listed on ebay right now in buy-it-nows for just short of the cost of my right arm.

Doug

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by doug.goodman

Everything I know about ad backs I learned in this forum, and most of that knowledge came from this thread.

I am missing the Cobb, Pittsburgh team and Detroit team from 1909, and the Cobb / Wagner from 1910.

I think all four of them might be listed on ebay right now in buy-it-nows for just short of the cost of my right arm.

Doug

Thanks Doug.

[Danny Smith]

Is there anywhere that lists exactly when each of the supplements in the set was issued? I have a couple blank backs.

Danny

[doug.goodman]

Each supplement has a date on it, here's the list :

1909-07-22 Roger Bresnahan, St. Louis
1909-07-29 Denton Young / Louis Criger
1909-08-05 Christopher Mathewson
1909-08-12 Tyrus Cobb
1909-08-19 Napoleon Lajoie
1909-08-26 Sherwood MaGee, Philadelphia
1909-09-02 Frank Chance
1909-09-09 Edward Walsh, Chicago (AL)
1909-09-16 Nap Rucker
1909-09-23 Honus Wagner
1909-09-30 Hugh Jennings
1909-10-07 Fred Clarke, Pittsburg
1909-10-14 Byron Bancroft Johnson, Pres. AL
1909-10-21 Charles Comiskey, Owner White Sox
1909-10-28 Edward Collins, Philadelphia
1909-11-04 James McAleer, Washington
1909-11-11 Pittsburgh Team
1909-11-18 Detroit Team
1909-11-25 George Bell, Brooklyn NL
1909-12-02 Tris Speaker, Boston
1909-12-09 Mordecai Brown
1909-12-16 Hal Chase, New York (AL)
1909-12-23 Thomas Leach
1909-12-30 Owen Bush, Detroit
1910-01-06 John Evers
1910-01-13 Harry Krause, Philadelphia
1910-01-20 Chas. B. Adams, Pittsburg
1910-01-27 Addie Joss
1910-02-03 Orval Overall
1910-02-10 Samuel Crawford
1910-02-17 Fred Merkle, New York (NL)
1910-02-24 George Mullin, Detroit
1910-03-03 Edward Konetchy, St. Louis
1910-03-10 George Gibson / Arthur Raymond
1910-03-17 Ty Cobb / Hans Wagner
1910-03-24 Connie Mack
1910-03-31 Evans, O’Loughlin, AL; Klem, Johnstone, NL
1910-04-07 Edward Plank, Philadelphia
1910-09-01 Walter Johnson / Charles Street
1910-09-08 John Kling
1910-09-15 Frank Baker, Athletics
1910-09-22 Charles Dooin
1910-09-29 Wm. F. Carrigan, Boston
1910-10-06 John McLean, Cincinnati
1910-10-13 John Coombs, Philadelphia
1910-10-20 Joe Tinker
1910-10-27 John Taylor, Owner, Boston
1910-11-03 Russell Ford, New York (AL)
1910-11-10 Leonard Cole, Chicago (NL)
1910-11-17 Harry Lord, Chicago White Sox
1910-11-24 Philadelphia American Team
1910-12-01 Chicago National Team
1910-12-08 Charles Bender, Philadelphia
1910-12-15 Arthur Hofman, Chicago (AL)
1910-12-21 Bobby Wallace, St. Louis
1910-12-28 John J McGraw
1911-01-05 Harry Davis, Philadelphia
1911-01-12 James Archer, Chicago (NL)
1911-01-19 Ira Thomas, Philadelphia
1911-01-26 Robert Byrnes, Pittsburg
1911-02-02 Clyde Milan
1911-02-09 John Meyer, New York (NL)
1911-02-16 Roger Bescher, Cincinnati
1911-02-23 John Barry, Philadelphia
1911-03-02 Frank Schulte
1911-03-09 Harris White, Chicago (AL)
1911-03-16 Lawrence Doyle, New York (NL)
1911-03-23 Joe Jackson
1911-10-26 Martin O'Toole / William Kelly
1911-11-02 Vean Gregg
1911-11-09 Richard Marquard
1911-11-16 John McInnis, Athletics
1911-11-23 Grover C Alexander
1911-11-30 Del Gainer
1911-12-07 Fred Snodgrass, New York (NL)
1911-12-14 James Callahan, Chicago (AL)
1911-12-21 Robert Harmon, St. Louis
1911-12-28 George Stovall, Cleveland
1912-01-04 Zack Wheat
1912-01-11 Frank Bodie
1912-10-10 Boston American Team, AL Champions
1912-10-17 New York National Team
1912-10-24 Jake Stahl, Mgr., Boston
1912-10-31 Joe Wood, Boston
1912-11-07 Charles Wagner
1912-11-14 Lew Ritchie
1912-11-21 Clark Giffith
1912-11-28 Arnold Hauser
1912-12-05 Charles Herzog
1912-12-12 Jas. Lavender, Chicago (NL)
1912-12-19 Jeff Tesreau, New York (NL)
1912-12-26 August Herrmann, Owner Cincinnati
1913-10-23 Jake Daubert
1913-10-30 Heinie Zimmerman
1913-11-06 Ray Schalk
1913-11-13 Hans Lobert
1913-11-20 Albert Demaree
1913-11-27 Arthur Fletcher
1913-12-04 Charles Somers
1913-12-11 Joe Birmingham

[Danny Smith]

Awesome. Thank you!!!!