The Oaks Show and SGC Grading

[danmckee]

Ask for my money back? I paid them $1800+ and had to pop 50% of the cards. I can't ask them for the money back, I paid for a service and they provided it. It was just a PISS POOR service! The OJ's are gem! maybe a touch of silver fish paper eating on back, a 1.5???? WHAT A JOKE! Backs shouldn't even matter on old judges, image quality should be important. I have 5's that you can't see the image hardly. This grading is a complete joke and a cancer to the true hobby!

I sent in 300+ cards and busted half of them out, EMBARRASSING!

[danmckee]

Yea, I am way pissed Trevor, but cured from ever sending in another large submission. Probably a blessing in disguise.

[kcohen]

Yea Dan. Hanging out and getting stupid with hobby friends is the best part of card shows, which is why the hobby will be so diminished if/when they disappear.

As to OJ grading, I've whined about this often. You could submit some smokey unidentifiable image with sharp corners and a clean back and it gets a 5 or 6, whereas a crystal clear sharp photo image with scrapbook damage on the back gets a 1. Makes no sense. Frankly, I think that most OJ collector's couldn't give a rat's (!) about the numerical grade.

[danmckee]

I completely agree Ken! To a true collector, the numerical grade is but a joke!

[CubsFanCurt]

I've never believed in grading. When I was a kid I just wanted a card and VG or MNT didn't mean a damn thing. Condition is condition and I don't need a slab to tell me what I have and I won't pay extra because it's slabbed

[danmckee]

CubsfanCurt! WOW! Where have you been?? You must have bee around for awhile. That is how collecting used to be when it was fun!!! Good for you, I think you and I are the only 2 left!

[danmckee]

Why thank you Timberdouche, while you stopped reading, do yourself a favor and stop writing, u r an idiot.

[danmckee]

I can live with the yellow Gehrig and the recently acquired Washington Times but the T205 BLAZER was from the family that removed it from a pack and the rounded corner Gehrig has been in my set since 1975. A complete embarrassing joke!

[Zach Wheat]

Originally Posted by kcohen

Yea Dan. Hanging out and getting stupid with hobby friends is the best part of card shows, which is why the hobby will be so diminished if/when they disappear.

As to OJ grading, I've whined about this often. You could submit some smokey unidentifiable image with sharp corners and a clean back and it gets a 5 or 6, whereas a crystal clear sharp photo image with scrapbook damage on the back gets a 1. Makes no sense. Frankly, I think that most OJ collector's couldn't give a rat's (!) about the numerical grade.

+1

[wonkaticket]

Dan's T205's from the find in MD, Mattern was in a 5 poped at the show became a 4...LOL.

[Orioles1954]

I too have been very frustrated with SGC's grading for the past year. I know they've had some substantial turnover, but I just can't wait for them to turn it around anymore. I want my cards to be accurately graded, not harshly graded. Harsh grading isn't good grading.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by Orioles1954

I too have been very frustrated with SGC's grading for the past year. I know they've had some substantial turnover, but I just can't wait for them to turn it around anymore. I want my cards to be accurately graded, not harshly graded. Harsh grading isn't good grading.

I haven't sent cards in for grading in years, but I only used SGC. The only reason I saw to get a card slabbed was if authenticity was questionable, or if I wasn't sure about trimming. SGC handled those issues fine.

But I found the grades I received to be almost nonsensical - they were clearly not in line with what the larger submitters were receiving, and so I cracked most and sold as raw, describing details accurately and providing good scans when selling. Not saying I won't send more to them, but I know what to expect. Sorry to see that Dan's experience indicates that little has changed.

Dan - quit pissing people off and submit in larger volumes.

[3-2-count]

Originally Posted by danmckee

this grading is a complete joke and a cancer to the true hobby!

yep!!