1926 Exhibits Ruth Question

[Exhibitman]

This stuff is giving me a headache...

[smtjoy]

I just checked out the list I had of what he needed and he needs 71 1926 cards to complete, looking at your post that 70 cards were reruns, makes me think they are the reruns. I wonder how many of these needs also were issued in 1925? I know hes been looking for a long while, maybe he can comment if he has ever seen any of them and just been outbid.


1926 Exhibits (71/128)
Adams Bassler Bell
Bigbee Bishop Blates
Bleuge Bottomley Bressler
Carey Cobb E. Collins
Coveleski Critz Cuyler
Donohue Dauss Dressen
Dykes Falk Flagstead
Freigau Gehrig Gerber
Goslin Grantham Grimm
S. Harris Hartnett Heilmann
Hornsby Jacobson W. Johnson
Judge Kamm Kramer
Lutzke McManus McNeely
Miller Mueller Muesel
Myatt O'Rourke Perkins
Rixey Rommel Roush
Ruel Ruffing Ruth
J. Sewell Shalk Shawkey
Shelly Sherdell Shocker
Sissler E. Smith S. Smith
Speaker Summa Terry
Thurston Todt Torporcer
Traynor K. Williams Wingard
Wingo Wright

[glchen]

My opinion is that this lot from a Legendary auction are all 1926 Exhibits because they seem to have the same toning and most likely the same provenance. Link

In this lot, these cards have the box:

Sparky Adams
Max Bishop
Raymond Blates
Oswald Bluege
Max Carey
Hugh Critz
Charles Dressen
Wilson Fewster
Howard Freigau
George Grantham
Harry Heilmann
William Jacobson
Walter Johnson
Willie Kamm
Walter Lutzke
Clarence Mueller
Earl McNeely
Edwin Rommell
Ed Roush
Charles Ruffing
Ray Shalk
William Sherdell
Harold Traynor
Ernest Wingard

This seems to agree with Scott's list of what he is also missing in the 26 Exhibits set. If anyone has any of these cards without the box, if they could post this, that would be great.

I would think the toning in the 26 Exhibits would be slightly bluer while the 25 Exhibits would be grayer.

[smtjoy]

I just went thru the list and every card he as well as every card I need was a 1925 issue.

A while back I got a lot that was close to the legendary one and it was mainly 1926 but had a few of what I though were 1925's, the colors were all the same on all of them, I just checked my list of them and they are the ones no one has every seen a 1926 of.

Looking through my notes I show one set selling in 2007 in a oldjudge auction and I just looked at the pics and they show the 1926 with box and the do appear to have a different tint than the 1925 set that was sold in the same auction. Link-

http://www.oldjudge.com/archive/200711/exhibits/

I am going to check the tints on the 1925s I have that are the in missing 1926 to see if any are a different tint.

Interesting stuff.

Ok just adding pics from the auction on top of each other, they clearly look to have a different tint-

[smtjoy]

Ok just went thru my 1925 and 1926 cards, first its really hard to tell the difference just by looking at them but as soon as I scanned a few side by side it became a lot easier, here you go, what do you all think-

First here is a 1926 from the lot I got (that had like 11 1926 and 3 1925's) and a 1925 just so we can compare cards that we know are 1926 and 1925's -



Second here is a pick of a 1925 in the lot I mentioned above as well as another 1925 I picked up a few years ago-



Here is a 1925 that clearly has a blue tint, here is a 1925 only player Brooks-



I only found a few that for sure had a blue tint, my ruth did not, I would guess maybe 25% or less had the blue tint.

[glchen]

Thanks for all of the scans, Scott. I think I'm going to go forward and assume that blue tint is 26 Exhibits and gray tint is 25 Exhibits even though it may be very difficult to tell on some cards. The box/no box may not matter if there doesn't exist a no box variation for it.

[smtjoy]

Glad to try and figure this out, I been thinking hard on this and I just cant see anything else being the case, even more so since the old Catalog pretty much says 70 cards were reused (I found that number to be 71 cards). After talking to a few other exhibit collectors here is a break down list of the 1926 set I put together and they all should have a blue tint (much different than the 1928 blue tint thou). I also found it interesting that nearly all the list of 71 cards have some of the higher pops fro the set and I have found them much easier to find than the 17 that changed removed the box-

39 New Players in 1926 that are not in 1925 set

John M. Bentley
George Bischoff
J. Fred Blake
Ted Blankenship
Lucerne A. Blue
Geo. H. Burns
John Butler
Patrick T. Collins
Earl B. Combs
James E. Cooney
Edward S. Farrell
Bernard Friberg
Joseph Galloway
Charles Gehringer
Fred Haney
Wm. Hargrave
Joseph Hauser
C. E. Heathcote
Ramon Herrera
Andrew A. High
Clarence Huber
Wm. Hunnefield
Anthony Lazzeri
Frederick Lindstrom
John Makan
Hugh A. McQuillan
Douglas McWeeny
Oscar Melillo
Joseph W. Munson
Emil Musel
Bernie F. Neis
Robert O'Farrell
James J. Ring
Fred Spurgeon
Edward Taylor
J. Taylor
John Warner
Fred Wingfield
Russell Wrightstone

18 players from both sets but the 1926 version has no box

David Bancroft
Lawrence Benton
Maurice Burrus
Wilson Fewster
Frank Frisch
Jacques F. Furnier
Joseph Genewich
Burleigh A. Grimes
George Harper
Walter Henline
Walter Marranville
George O'Neil
Walter C. Pipp
Emory Rigney
John Sand
Frank Snyder
William Terry
Wm. Wambsganns
Zach Wheat


70 Cards that are the same as the 1925 cards except they have a blue tint (these are the reruns)-

Sparky Adams
John Bassler
Lester Bell
Carson Bigbee
Max Bishop
Raymond Blates
Oswald Bluege
James Bottomly
Raymond Bressler
Max Carey
Tyrus Cobb
Eddie Collins
Stanley Coveleski
Hugh M. Critz
Hazen Cuyler
George Dauss
Peter Donohue
Charles Dressen
James J. Dykes
Bib Falk
Ira Flagstead
Howard Freigau
Henry L. Gehrig
Walter Gerber
Leon Goslin
George Grantham
Charles Grimm
Stanley Harris
Leo Hartnett
Harry Heilmann
Rogers Hornsby
William Jacobson
Walter Johnson
Joseph Judge
Willie Kamm
Ray Kremer
Walter Lutzke
Martin McManus
Earl McNeely
Edmund Miller
Clarence Mueller
Robert W. Muesel
Glenn Myatt
Frank O'Rourke
Ralph Perkins
Eppa Rixey
Edwin Rommel
Ed. Roush
Harold Ruel
Charles Ruffing
Geo. H. Ruth
Joseph Sewell
Ray Shalk
J. R. Shawkey
Earl Sheely
William Sherdell
Urban J. Shocker
George Sissler
Earl Smith
Sherrod Smith
Tristram Speaker
Homer Summa
Hollis Thurston
Philip Todt
George Torporcer
Harold Traynor
Kenneth Williams
Ernest Wingard
Ivy Wingo
Glen Wright

If everyone would check their 1925/26 exhibits to see if they have any of the cards listed in the list of 71 that does not have a box (the scd listed this as 70 cards so it is possible that one of these might be found without a box), thanks.