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Old 11-04-2011, 08:48 AM
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These recent threads are about to reduce me to begging: Can we please separate this forum into TWO separate forums, so the vintage memorabilia collectors can avoid this tripe?

1) vintage memorabilia (non-COA stuff)
2) autographs and game-used
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Old 11-04-2011, 09:13 AM
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Here Here. I agree, Richard my friend ENOUGH PLEASE!
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Old 11-04-2011, 09:38 AM
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Agreed that that is the worst apology ever.

Also agree that a separate autograph forum be created. But please don't include game used items with autographs. Just like most memorabilia collectors, we don't want to be subjected to the endless threads about the latest bogus Ruth or Mantle autograph spotted on ebay.

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Old 11-04-2011, 10:05 AM
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Agreed that that is the worst apology ever.

Also agree that a separate autograph forum be created. But please don't include game used items with autographs. Just like most memorabilia collectors, we don't want to be subjected to the endless threads about the latest bogus Ruth or Mantle autograph spotted on ebay.

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What about all the squabbles about bats and jerseys that are certified as game-used, but end up not being?

To someone who doesn't collect game-used or autographs, they seem like part of the same cluster f**k

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Old 11-04-2011, 10:16 AM
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Agreed that that is the worst apology ever.

Also agree that a separate autograph forum be created. But please don't include game used items with autographs. Just like most memorabilia collectors, we don't want to be subjected to the endless threads about the latest bogus Ruth or Mantle autograph spotted on ebay.

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What about all the squabbles about bats and jerseys that are certified as game-used, but end up not being?

To someone who doesn't collect game-used or autographs, they seem like part of the same cluster f**k

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That's a good idea Greg, a very good idea. And Scott, I can't remember the last time there was a squabble regarding Bats and Jerseys being legit. I'm sure there have been, but it would be miniscule compared to autographs.
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Old 11-04-2011, 10:21 AM
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That's a good idea Greg, a very good idea. And Scott, I can't remember the last time there was a squabble regarding Bats and Jerseys being legit. I'm sure there have been, but it would be miniscule compared to autographs.
I am sure most everyone knows already but the latest FBI bust involved six guys selling bogus jerseys. None of the names on that FBI list sold autographs as far as I know. There is massive dirt involved in both autographs and game used. Though I would have to concede that there is more dirt in autographs.
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Old 11-04-2011, 10:25 AM
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I am sure most everyone knows already but the latest FBI bust involved six guys selling bogus uniforms. None of the names on that FBI list sold autographs as far as I know.
You are correct Richard. However did anyone from this board get burned? Also, just how many fellow collectors have gotten screwed by Coach's Corner?
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That's a good idea Greg, a very good idea. And Scott, I can't remember the last time there was a squabble regarding Bats and Jerseys being legit. I'm sure there have been, but it would be miniscule compared to autographs.
That could be. I just know that I've never trusted modern game-used anything. It was very refreshing the other day to see you guys i.d. the Munson World Series jersey. I love hearing that things are as real as they are certified to be.

Autographs are just nuts - as a kid who used to get free autographs from pro players (I still have every one of them), I can't imagine standing in line and paying a guy to sign something. I have only bought autographs from dead guys.

Trimmed and altered cards are just as bad.

All of the above are why I ended up gravitating to cool old stuff that no one would have any incentive to mess with.
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Old 11-04-2011, 11:45 AM
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Richard, you have been (and continue to be) a terrific force in the autograph business.

I've only done business with you once, but have read the newsletter section on your site regularly for many years.

I appreciate your work in trying to clean up the hobby.

My presence here is almost exclusively as a lurker, but I read your posts with the recognition that you are highly skilled and honorable.

You don't need to apologize to me.
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Old 11-04-2011, 12:17 PM
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I don't think separating the autographs from memorabilia is needed.
First of there aren't that many posts on this side to begin with. Second, you already have a way to not read posts about Collectors Corner, bogus Ruths. Don't open them!
People have complained before about autograph threads, yet they still read them. Why? People complain about bickering threads, yet they still read them. Why? So far, between the first Simon vs Atkatz thread, the "Who do you side with?" thread, and this thread they have 7379 views and 190 replies since 10/31(4 days). In contrast, the "Centerpice of your collection thread" has only 3329 views and 56 replies since 10/23 (11d).
It seems strange to me that the stuff people complain about is the stuff they read. Even Scott, who brought up separating autographs was the last person to post in the "authenticity question" thread. You read 34 posts prior to posting your self. If you don't like those threads, why did you read it?

I guess I like everything together, because I don't have to bounce from forum to forum. Don't read the threads that don't interest you!

Oh and BTW, I have seen arguments on the forum for many things including cards, photos, autos, bats, outing auctions, and the list goes on. I've also seen threads about fake signs/display items, fake pennants, and hucksters selling all manner of fake crap. It's gonna happen no matter how you seprate things. Just avoid the things you don't like.
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The Memorabilia side has finally arrived!!

These squabbles used to just be a part of the Card side of Net54.

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These recent threads are about to reduce me to begging: Can we please separate this forum into TWO separate forums, so the vintage memorabilia collectors can avoid this tripe?

1) vintage memorabilia (non-COA stuff)
2) autographs and game-used
When the autograph stuff really started to take over this side of the board we had more than a few non-auto memorabilia collectors mention that they'd like to see a split..I know that a few of those members have nearly stopped participating in this forum and honestly as a non-auto collector myself I've found myself much less interested in what's going on over here and I'm a moderator!! I hate to see what's happened recently as this side has almost always been fairly peaceful..The apology above was just ridiculous IMO. Some people love the drama though.
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