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10-31-2011, 09:55 PM
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"Geez" is right, Richard. You and Chris tell me it's no good. (Not a single example to back you up, though.) You tell me you know the guy who made it. "Johnny F---." (No examples of his work, though. Hell. Not even a name.) Chris tells me it won't pass PSA or JSA today.
I guess I'll just have to destroy the ball to keep it from turning up again in the hobby. 
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10-31-2011, 09:56 PM
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10-31-2011, 09:58 PM
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One thing I can say for 100% certainty ,,,,, David Atkatz, bitter retired teacher from some school, who curses out his boss, is not worth losing sleep over.
Good night all.
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10-31-2011, 09:59 PM
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No problem, Richard. I always try to do what's right.
And I commend you for your work in those two cases. But how come no one's asked for your help in the last decade?
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11-01-2011, 06:19 AM
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I just don't have any other letters about it. I know, I will say it before you start it again, I am alluding to other super secret, code red, for your eyes only, super rare, unknown stories. I am still waiting for an apology for doubting that I did anything, oh wait, your apologies are meaningless, why should I wait for another one. And to digress a bit and backtrack, in another instance of people in glass houses, David, you were offered $60K for the ball by "a dealer." Wow, a dealer. Nice. And you accuse me of posting vague stories? How vague is that one? Yeah, I know, it happened because you said it did. If Johnny is alive and reading Net54 he must be laughing. He never was paid $60K for his work, if you sell that ball the fair thing to do would be to track him down and share the proceeds with him. He is an artist, isn't he David? Just look at that ball of yours. He tried to sell me many things 20 years ago, they all "walked into his store in Queens." Just like someone else we know, all that great stuff just walked into his store. Wonder who walked into his store with your baseball?
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11-01-2011, 08:02 AM
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Richard, if you are certain that you know the ball is bad and it is the work of someone you know then I think you owe it to David to give him that name. Just my opinion.
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11-01-2011, 08:22 AM
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Thanks, Dan. But don't worry about it. Richard knows all, but speaks little. It has always been so.
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11-01-2011, 08:31 AM
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And David could do nothing to that person now anyway. The statute of limitations, I am sure, has long expired on some crime like this. And he bought it in an auction, that is where he would have to take action. This person's whereabouts are unknown, which is why I asked about him. I was just offered an extraordinarily rare HOFer autograph and was concerned about it though it had much about it to like. It was shown to Ron Keurigian (sp?) and he said it was no good, so I immediately dropped out of the bidding. The idea popped into my head that the one peson that I knew who was good enough to pull this off was Johnny F---. So that is why I asked about it.
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11-01-2011, 08:33 AM
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Yes I speak little, but I don't apologize to people and then 5 minutes later start an attack on them.
(and thank you for saying that I know all, even I don't say that I know all, but I appreciate your kind words about that, but I do know a lot about what is going on in this business). That is really low David, to apologize and then attack, but we see you are showing your true colors. Guess all those students of yours who rated you in the bottom at your school (yeah I remember that old thread where that info came out) were pretty right about you. And you must be so proud to have told a dean at your former school to go f--- themselves. Yes folks, David admitted that to me in an e mail. He has major issues with authority it seems, besides the major issues he has here. And I don't want to check the old e mails, but didn't you say it was a woman David? Maybe not, but I think you did say that. Did you say go f--- yourself to a female dean at your former school? Did you take early retirement? You always sounded sad and bitter during that long thread of long ago. And that continues,,,, And those excuses you gave when that info was revealed about the scores you got from your students,,,just pathetic.
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10-31-2011, 10:10 PM
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Before I say "good night," here's my challenge to you, David.
Send it to PSA. If they pass it, I will PayPal you $200.00. If PSA rejects it, you have to PayPal me $200.00.
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10-31-2011, 10:18 PM
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I'll tell you what. You take the most valuable autographs in your collection, enough to equal the value of my ball (assuming it's real)--about $30,000, at least, and, whether they have PSA or JSA certification or not, send them off to PSA ('Cause who knows? They might not pass today.) You do that, and I'll send the ball off, too.
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10-31-2011, 10:21 PM
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10-31-2011, 10:23 PM
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And you have mine. (A somewhat more fair and equitable challenge, if I do say so myself.)
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10-31-2011, 10:57 PM
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I'm gonna tell one little story here. Self-serving, to be sure. But true. And an example of how I would expect to be treated if someone was concerned about the authenticity of one of my pieces.
Just a little story from a mean-spirited, nasty, unhappy, caustic, and bitter man. A few years ago I noticed that a Dwight Frye autograph being sold on eBay was no good. (Dwight Frye played "Renfield" in the original Dracula, and "Fritz" in the original Frankenstein. He died in 1943, long before the "monster craze" of the late 50s and early 60s. His is the rarest, and most sought after horror autograph.) How did I know it was a phoney? Because it had been cut from a piece I used to own. And how did I know that mine was no good? Because a stranger contacted me, and showed me a scan of the original it was copied from. (The "original" was an autograph catalog page--two photos of different items appeared, and the signatures from those items had been copied on to my single first-day cover.) So I contacted the seller, and I sent him a scan of my piece, and a scan of the original. I explained how the dealer who sold it to me insisted it was real. (And I told him who the dealer was. Was that "betraying a confidence"?) The dealer had given me a refund, but kept insisting it was real, and that he was going to cut the signatures apart, and sell them separately. That was a few years before, but wouldn't ya know it? This guy had obtained his piece from that dealer. Had I not seen the original catalog page, I would still think my piece was real. And every horror autograph expert I showed this stuff to said the same thing: were it not for that catalog page they would be fooled. So... Was Jimmy fooled? Am I fooled? Could be. But before I believe that, I expect a little more than "I used to know the guy that forged it 20 years ago, but I can't say his name (or the name of the dealer who tried to sell me his stuff," or "I know it won't pass Jimmy today, even though it already has." I guess I'm just funny that way.
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