My Ty Cobb RC?

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by Bicem

like Brian said, the w601 Sporting Life postcard is actually 1906 and thus predates your card, still a cool pc though. Kevin Struss did some nice research on the subject, but the w601 postcards were most likely issued right after the 1906 World Series.

Really? postcards, 'team' postcards no less, can count as 'rookie' baseball cards? A lot happened while I wasn't collecting cards.

[rhettyeakley]

Jeff, It's neat that yours is dated exactly one week after the WS concluded and the Tigers had lost to the Cubs.
-Rhett

[bcbgcbrcb]

Looks like the ink used on both the postcard text as well as the Cobb identification on the top are identical. I find it a little odd that the sender having written the postcard in 1907 would have gone out of their way to identify just Cobb in the team photo.

[edhans]

Looks like the ink used on both the postcard text as well as the Cobb identification on the top are identical. I find it a little odd that the sender having written the postcard in 1907 would have gone out of their way to identify just Cobb in the team photo.

Phil,
Neither the ink nor the handwriting look similar to me. I suspect the Cobb ID was added much later.

Ed

[jb217676]

The identifying copy for Cobb is ball point pen so it would have to have been written much later. I think the holes were made later too, I don't know if they had hole punches back then?

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Runscott

Really? postcards, 'team' postcards no less, can count as 'rookie' baseball cards? A lot happened while I wasn't collecting cards.

The dividing line between a team postcard being a rookie or not is directly proportional to owning one.

[Bicem]

Originally Posted by Leon

The dividing line between a team postcard being a rookie or not is directly proportional to owning one.

rookie card collecting is losing popularity almost as fast as type collecting.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Bicem

rookie card collecting is losing popularity almost as fast as type collecting.

Yeah, the only difference is I can show you references to type card collecting from the 1930s to 1940s....been losing popularity ever since. As for rookie card collectors....I guess there are a few left...

I should add that I used to be rookie card collector myself and it was fun. I have nothing against any collector. Do what makes ya happy. I just wish no one else was a type card collector!!

[Bicem]

Originally Posted by Runscott

Really? postcards, 'team' postcards no less, can count as 'rookie' baseball cards? A lot happened while I wasn't collecting cards.

I was simply stating the w601 pc came before the HM Taylor card. So if you count team postcards as rookies then it would be the w601 and not the HM Taylor, and if you don't then it would be neither. Everyone seems to have their own set of rules as to what counts as a rookie card (or even what counts as a card) which makes debating rookie cards pretty futile in my opinion.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by Bicem

I was simply stating the w601 pc came before the HM Taylor card. So if you count team postcards as rookies then it would be the w601 and not the HM Taylor, and if you don't then it would be neither. Everyone seems to have their own set of rules as to what counts as a rookie card (or even what counts as a card) which makes debating rookie cards pretty futile in my opinion.

Not really. A baseball card is a baseball card. A postcard is a postcard. I have a nice baseball postcard collection, but I never thought of any of them as baseball cards.

[Bicem]

Originally Posted by Runscott

Not really. A baseball card is a baseball card. A postcard is a postcard. I have a nice baseball postcard collection, but I never thought of any of them as baseball cards.

what's the difference?

[bcbgcbrcb]

Thanks for clarifying, Jeff. Just from looking at the scan, the color, thickness, etc. of the ink appeared to be the same.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by Bicem

what's the difference?

I have no skin in this game - just curious how people came to start considering postcards to be baseball cards. If you can't tell the difference, then I'm not going to waste a lot of time trying to explain it to you, but I can guarantee you that if the sender of that team postcard told the person in advance that he was mailing them a Ty Cobb baseball card, the recipient would have been surprised at the end result.

[Bicem]

you're right, not cards. my bad.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by Bicem

you're right, not cards. my bad.

Jeff, if you don't want to participate in the discussion, creating a straw man is kind of a weak sign-off. As you are well aware, I never said they weren't cards.

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by Runscott

I have no skin in this game - just curious how people came to start considering postcards to be baseball cards. If you can't tell the difference, then I'm not going to waste a lot of time trying to explain it to you, but I can guarantee you that if the sender of that team postcard told the person in advance that he was mailing them a Ty Cobb baseball card, the recipient would have been surprised at the end result.

Not sure how I feel about this one...definitely somewhere in the middle. I think about hand-cut/strip cards as somewhat different than traditional baseball cards too. And I think to me a determining factor in deciding if a PC is a card is whether the postcard is part of a series (i.e. Dietsche, HM Taylor, Sporting Life, Rose, etc.) as opposed to just a one-off. I mean to me the card below is a card and not a PC:

[smtjoy]

Runscott would you consider exhibits not to be cards because a few series have post card backs? Then you have the 1931-32 that even state on the back its a card, and no way it could be considered a postcard with no room to mail because of the ad on the back. IMO in some case they can be both but they are cards along the same lines as Calvindog listed.

[Runscott]

[QUOTE=calvindog;934366]

That M101-3 of Cobb is a real beauty. I never noticed before that he's holding his shirt together with a safety pin. Kind of like the Conlon photo of Ruth with gum on top of his cap.

[benchod]

Originally Posted by Runscott

Not really. A baseball card is a baseball card. A postcard is a postcard. I have a nice baseball postcard collection, but I never thought of any of them as baseball cards.

Then what does this mean?