OT- eBay situation help

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by vintagerookies51

I told him I'd give a full refund when I receive the card. He accepted but now says he's still going to leave negative feedback... Can he even do that?

Yes, he can. If it were me (and I know everybody handles situations differently), I would get rude with the guy at this point. He could have accepted your refund and moved on, but he chose to be a jerk. Fight fire with fire.

This is what I would do: He is also an eBay seller himself. He currently has 136 items for sale. I would tell him that if he leaves you negative feedback, you will use one of your other eBay accounts and buy an item from him and leave him negative feedback as well.

Even if you don't have another eBay account, he won't know that. He knows can block you as a bidder now, but he won't know the user id(s) of you other account(s) to block. It will probably keep him from leaving you negative feedback.

Anyway, that's just my $.02

[AndyG09]

I'm sorry you ran into a real gem here. I hope he does the right thing and doesn't neg you, but he sounds like the kind of clown who would. Hope you come away clean. Good luck!

Best,

Andy

[steve B]

Yeah, he's asking for trouble with his listings too. The same item listed twice at different prices, the same item with a buy it now and a separate auction....

And he is listing from a smartphone and probably bidding from there too.There's no way he can see any detail at all on those tiny screens.

Steve B

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

Yes, he can. If it were me (and I know everybody handles situations differently), I would get rude with the guy at this point. He could have accepted your refund and moved on, but he chose to be a jerk. Fight fire with fire.

This is what I would do: He is also an eBay seller himself. He currently has 136 items for sale. I would tell him that if he leaves you negative feedback, you will use one of your other eBay accounts and buy an item from him and leave him negative feedback as well.

Even if you don't have another eBay account, he won't know that. He knows can block you as a bidder now, but he won't know the user id(s) of you other account(s) to block. It will probably keep him from leaving you negative feedback.

Anyway, that's just my $.02

[doug.goodman]

Open another ebay acount.

Bid $10,000 on every item that the guy is selling.

Hit delete on every email you receive regarding those auctions.

Watch new account get thrown off of ebay.

Maybe a bit harsh, but speaking as a guy with perfect feedback on every ebay account I've had (3000+ in total), including the three that were thrown off of ebay, it's kind of fun.

Doug

[Brendan]

Originally Posted by doug.goodman

Open another ebay acount.

Bid $10,000 on every item that the guy is selling.

Hit delete on every email you receive regarding those auctions.

Watch new account get thrown off of ebay.

Maybe a bit harsh, but speaking as a guy with perfect feedback on every ebay account I've had (3000+ in total), including the three that were thrown off of ebay, it's kind of fun.

Doug

Watch new account get thrown off of eBay, followed by being banned for life from both eBay and PayPal on your new account and your real account.

eBay is one of the most sophisticated multi-account (which in itself is within the rules) detecters of any website online. If one account goes down, every account goes down. If you want to still do this,

Clear your cookies including flash cookies or create a new user
eBay recognizes you by your IP address. They detect proxies, so either change your IP (but change it back when you're done and make sure not to go on any eBay owned sites before you do...Skype, StubHub, etc.) or buy a Virtual Private Network (VPN) at a place like this.

If any information is in any way similar to your old account they'll detect it. If you put your location in New York but your IP is in Texas they'll detect it. (a VPN is useful in this situation because you can pick your location) You may also have to buy a virtual credit card. (because your credit cards are linked to you)

See if you can talk to the guy on the phone. Refer him to some eBay feedback related lawsuits. Create some phony law. Have Stephanie J, Esquire write him an email. Most of all, talk to him off eBay. I'm not totally sure, but I would think leaving negative feedback because a buyer left negative feedback would be against some rule. Also, if you say this and create an another account and leave bad feedback or bid on all his items, eBay will suspect it's you and suspicion is all they need to insta-ban you for life. It isn't 1999 anymore and almost nothing will get past eBay.

[steve B]

Or use the computer at the library.
Or have an ISP with dynamic IP addresses.
Plenty of ways around most of that.

Either way doing that would be wrong, and against a load of rules so it's not the best path.

But hitting the BIN on this since it;s identical to an auction that just ended..... Either way he's likely to get a legit negative and a non-performing seller complaint. That IS within the rules.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/120797712753...84.m1438.l2649

Auction
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1959-topps-f...item1c2017c3b5

OR
Buy both of these. I'm pretty sure you'll only get one since it's the same card

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1959-topps-w...item1c202a84b5

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1959-topps-w...item1c202c01c1

Plenty of ways to do something legitimately.

Steve B

Originally Posted by Brendan

Watch new account get thrown off of eBay, followed by being banned for life from both eBay and PayPal on your new account and your real account.

eBay is one of the most sophisticated multi-account (which in itself is within the rules) detecters of any website online. If one account goes down, every account goes down. If you want to still do this,

Clear your cookies including flash cookies or create a new user
eBay recognizes you by your IP address. They detect proxies, so either change your IP (but change it back when you're done and make sure not to go on any eBay owned sites before you do...Skype, StubHub, etc.) or buy a Virtual Private Network (VPN) at a place like this.

If any information is in any way similar to your old account they'll detect it. If you put your location in New York but your IP is in Texas they'll detect it. (a VPN is useful in this situation because you can pick your location) You may also have to buy a virtual credit card. (because your credit cards are linked to you)

See if you can talk to the guy on the phone. Refer him to some eBay feedback related lawsuits. Create some phony law. Have Stephanie J, Esquire write him an email. Most of all, talk to him off eBay. I'm not totally sure, but I would think leaving negative feedback because a buyer left negative feedback would be against some rule. Also, if you say this and create an another account and leave bad feedback or bid on all his items, eBay will suspect it's you and suspicion is all they need to insta-ban you for life. It isn't 1999 anymore and almost nothing will get past eBay.

[Exhibitman]

Or just be a grown-up and let it go. No good comes of getting down in the mud with a pig. Just broadcast his Ebay ID here so the sellers here can block him as a known problem customer.

[nsaddict]

He has left you a positive feedback but with negative comments. I believe this is against ebay policies. A jackass for sure! Two days after purchasing your card he won a Goudey Ruth and Gehrig (trimmed) for 760.00. And since he can't leave you a neg now I wouldn't give a refund. This will be a lesson learned by his irrational behavior. He has left 3 negs in the last month including a PSA1 Clemente rookie. Don't refund!

[Jaybird]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

Or just be a grown-up and let it go. No good comes of getting down in the mud with a pig. Just broadcast his Ebay ID here so the sellers here can block him as a known problem customer.

+1. All the other tactics mentioned are way too involved for a transaction that could have been over and done with days ago. Why keep reliving it? And for those scheming on how to use a library computer to really work this guy over, I'm a little frightened. This isn't a bank heist, it's a baseball card.

[Brendan]

Originally Posted by steve B

Or use the computer at the library.
Or have an ISP with dynamic IP addresses.
Plenty of ways around most of that.

Yes, but if you don't do every other thing I listed it will still be tracked. You may also have some issues based on how the library computers are set up. (all accounts that used the computer at that library banned)

[GoldenAge50s]

I like David J's idea!

This is what I would do: He is also an eBay seller himself. He currently has 136 items for sale. I would tell him that if he leaves you negative feedback, you will use one of your other eBay accounts and buy an item from him and leave him negative feedback as well.

Even if you don't have another eBay account, he won't know that. He knows can block you as a bidder now, but he won't know the user id(s) of you other account(s) to block. It will probably keep him from leaving you negative feedback.