Common sense on BST

[sycks22]

I can see both sides of the tape. If someone tells a seller up front that they're going to put it in their collection and talk down the seller based on these ideas then sells it I have a beef with that. If a seller lists any items for any price and someone buys it at that price and attempts to sell it for a little more there's no problem with that. Calvindog: saying that someone is getting screwed if they buy a card for more than it went for at an auction house is crazy. Do you think people get screwed if they lost out on a T206 Plank for $40k, but then months later they buy it for $65k in another auction? Have you ever purchased a card that sold for less at an auction? Were you screwed in that situation?

[Jewish-collector]

It happens all the time with the auction houses. Buyer wins card from auction house A, consigns it shortly there after to auction house B. New Buyer wins it, consigns it to auction house C, etc,... It's no big deal. All the buyers from all the auction houses know each other. They talk/discuss/ have a beer about it when they see each other at the National.

It's the same thing on B/S/T, just with fewer zeroes for the prices

[sycks22]

Originally Posted by Jewish-collector

It happens all the time with the auction houses. Buyer wins card from auction house A, consigns it shortly there after to auction house B. New Buyer wins it, consigns it to auction house C, etc,... It's no big deal. All the buyers from all the auction houses know each other. They talk/discuss/ have a beer about it when they see each other at the National.

It's the same thing on B/S/T, just with fewer zeroes for the prices

Well said

[sportscardpete]

I get the point that once you sell a card, you lose all rights to it. However, it's just annoying when you sell a card, and see that some one flaunted around for a higher price. I'd rather just not deal with that and sell it to someone who will actually appreciate it....

[freakhappy]

Originally Posted by sportscardpete

I get the point that once you sell a card, you lose all rights to it. However, it's just annoying when you sell a card, and see that some one flaunted around for a higher price. I'd rather just not deal with that and sell it to someone who will actually appreciate it....

Believe me...they appreciate it

[novakjr]

Obviously, I see both sides to this...And while I agree that a buyer is free to do what they want with an item, there should be some common sense and etiquette in regards to items that are obviously listed low enough that it's almost a gift-like extension to the fellow "collectors" on this board..

Clearly, there's nothing worse than missing an incredible deal. But there are so many great people on this board, that when I do miss one, I find it easy to think to myself "good for him", and move on.

However, these quick flip practices could lead to those type of deals disappearing. So as a flipper, when you see one of the obviously courteous collector deals, you should just leave it alone, because you're potentially screwing us all over in the long run, just to make a buck..

That said. I believe that a large portion of the items in the BST fall into this category, or at least close. Otherwise they would've been listed on the bay.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by sportscardpete

I get the point that once you sell a card, you lose all rights to it. However, it's just annoying when you sell a card, and see that some one flaunted around for a higher price. I'd rather just not deal with that and sell it to someone who will actually appreciate it....

It's odd to me that your point seems to be lost on some.

I once had someone on the board beg me for a rare cigar box - they claimed that it was from a company that their family had founded, and it would mean a lot to them to have it, but they couldn't afford to pay my asking price (which was more than fair). I gave it to them for a song, and guess what? They flipped it shortly thereafter and made a huge profit.

So those of you supporting the flippers really don't understand how something like this could be annoying? Please.

I won't debate just to be debating, but I understand how it can be fun and intellectually stimulating.

[chaddurbin]

Originally Posted by Runscott

I once had someone on the board beg me for a rare cigar box - they claimed that it was from a company that their family had founded, and it would mean a lot to them to have it, but they couldn't afford to pay my asking price (which was more than fair). I gave it to them for a song, and guess what? They flipped it shortly thereafter and made a huge profit.

this. you being a soulless greed-driven do anything for a buck cardshark is fine...just don't drag your family history, dying father, handicapped son, or current medical condition in to get over on us. we're easy and friendly, it would've probably worked without the sob story. save those for when you really need it, not for a card you'll flip a week later.

at least we don't get the "PU of the year" on the main board and a few days later card shows up on BST for at least 2x...or soliciting offers while posting card in the PU thread.

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by sycks22

I can see both sides of the tape. If someone tells a seller up front that they're going to put it in their collection and talk down the seller based on these ideas then sells it I have a beef with that. If a seller lists any items for any price and someone buys it at that price and attempts to sell it for a little more there's no problem with that. Calvindog: saying that someone is getting screwed if they buy a card for more than it went for at an auction house is crazy. Do you think people get screwed if they lost out on a T206 Plank for $40k, but then months later they buy it for $65k in another auction? Have you ever purchased a card that sold for less at an auction? Were you screwed in that situation?

Pete, you know I'm not talking about months later. I'm talking about hours later. I think we both know what I'm talking about.

[seablaster]

I agree with the others. A certain amount of etiquette must be maintained. If more and more individuals experience this, we'll see more items on the eBay BIN museum.

Let me pose this scenario: you win one of Leon's contests and receive a card. You lose interest in it and sell it on the BST. In my opinion, this is unacceptable. My feeling would be either A) hold another contest and give it away or B) don't enter to start with and let someone who wants the card win it.

By the rationale some of you support, the card is now yours and you can do with it whatever you please. I don't feel that way necessarily.

[barrysloate]

I don't think any ethical boundaries are crossed by reselling a card an hour after it's purchased, but I will say that the person who does so certainly needs a refresher course in Marketing 101. The best objects in the antique world are the ones that are fresh to the market, and the worst are the ones that are recycled again and again. So at the very least if I were buying purely for resale I would try to sock an item away for a few months, at least long enough so that prospective buyers might actually forget where it came from. Could there be a more stupid way to market a card than to buy it from a major auction house on Monday, and then put it up for sale on Tuesday for double that price? It's absolutely the worst possible way to do business. For starters, you will be mocked on this board. That's bad enough.

[felada]

I think common sense on the bst would be if you want five cards from a set you can put them in a single post instead of individual posts

[AndyG09]

Originally Posted by felada

I think common sense on the bst would be if you want five cards from a set you can put them in a single post instead of individual posts

Exactly! I'm sure posters who are knocked down the page would agree too.

Best,
Andy

[pgellis]

Originally Posted by AndyG09

Exactly! I'm sure posters who are knocked down the page would agree too.

Best,
Andy

Also bumping a post where you list a card you are looking to purchase after only 3 days. I have bumped several WTB listings of my own, but I always wait at least 30 days before bumping such a listing.