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Old 10-13-2011, 12:11 PM
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Where do they get all these vintage baseballs? Isn't the supply limited?
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Old 10-13-2011, 12:18 PM
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Not to mention Chris that the Signature looks like it was just signed a few days ago (which it WAS Im sure). And wow, he even had the foresight to date and add an inscription. It must have been from one of the signings Matty did at a local card show.
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Old 10-13-2011, 12:24 PM
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None of these 100+ year old signatures ever exhibit any fading. They must have been hermetically sealed and kept in a cool dry place for all these years.

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Old 10-13-2011, 01:21 PM
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How do these guys get away with consistently pumping out bad material???

I just don't get it... With the sheer volume of apparent counterfeit material being auctioned off, one would think that the autorities would be all over these guys...

What Gives?
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Old 10-13-2011, 01:42 PM
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How do these guys get away with consistently pumping out bad material???

I just don't get it... With the sheer volume of apparent counterfeit material being auctioned off, one would think that the autorities would be all over these guys...

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Its an old topic Dave. Someone needs to catch the counterfeiters in the act, etc. But, if the authorities investigated, it may just be one PSA or JSA word agains those clowns words.

One thing thats interesting is Barry Sloates comment about never any fading. Any person w a TINY bit of common sense would know that a Matty Ball like that wouldn't be SO DARK. etc.

I am all for anyway I can help to shut crooks down. Someone point us in the direction. they go for LOW prices on CC, but the people who buy are fools or more likely crooks who KNOW stuff is junk and think they can dupe others.

Its a REAL BLACK mark on the hobby.
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Old 10-13-2011, 05:17 PM
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Check out the "o's" & "w's" in mathewson. I bet it took 2 minutes to fake that signature. I guarantee there will be a Ruth / Gehrig / Dimaggio / Mantle / Maris / Jeter ball coming up in their Dec auction.
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Is this for real?

This looks like a spoof website or something some junior high kids put together as a prank or something.
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From a musical friend of mine, this might explain CC

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RZPERu4odE

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Old 10-13-2011, 12:28 PM
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Where do they get all these vintage baseballs? Isn't the supply limited?
There are no "Limited Edition" products at Coach's Corner Auctions. The Coach's Corner consignors have "private signings" with Ruth, Mantle, Gehrig, Mathewson, Cy Young, Walter Johnson, Joe DiMaggio, Joe Jackson, Mike "King" Kelly, Ed Delahanty, etc., on a monthly basis. They also have "private autograph sessions" annually with George Washington, Abraham Lincoln, Amelia Earhart, The Beatles, Jimi Hendrix, etc.

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Old 10-13-2011, 12:32 PM
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Is there a good way to "clean" a recent signature from an otherwise-nice vintage ball?
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I don't even know what to say.

Thank you for that; I needed a LOL moment this a.m.

I didn't know Degas was a fauvist. And that "ballerina", well, she's built more like a stripper from Iowa.
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Wow... are they really claiming that this one-legged woman (with one "C" Cup and one "Double D") is an original Degas?

That claim might carry more chutzpah than all their other fake baseball pieces, combined. Best laugh of the day
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I agree. That Degas is beyond ridiculous. There wasn't even an attempt made to make it look at least a tiny bit like the artist's style.
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Old 10-14-2011, 12:16 PM
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And why does the piece of furniture in back of her (assuming that's what it is) also have only one leg? What's keeping it suspended on the right side? Is the "artist" making a "missing limb" statement of some kind?

The more I look, the funnier it gets!
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Old 10-13-2011, 01:33 PM
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There are no "Limited Edition" products at Coach's Corner Auctions. The Coach's Corner consignors have "private signings" with Ruth, Mantle, Gehrig, Mathewson, Cy Young, Walter Johnson, Joe DiMaggio, Joe Jackson, Mike "King" Kelly, Ed Delahanty, etc., on a monthly basis. They also have "private autograph sessions" annually with George Washington, Abraham Lincoln, Amelia Earhart, The Beatles, Jimi Hendrix, etc.
I know Christopher, the whole thing is ridiculous....but I actually meant where do they find all these blank vintage baseballs to add the signatures to? I do occasionally see vintage baseballs offered in auctions, but they need to acquire a pretty big supply of them to fill up their auctions. How many blank ones are out there?
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Old 10-13-2011, 04:34 PM
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I know Christopher, the whole thing is ridiculous....but I actually meant where do they find all these blank vintage baseballs to add the signatures to? I do occasionally see vintage baseballs offered in auctions, but they need to acquire a pretty big supply of them to fill up their auctions. How many blank ones are out there?
Barry, I have to think the majority of those baseballs aren't vintage balls. Roach's Corner had one auction a few months ago where they slipped and showed the logo in the photograph and it was determined it was a 1960's baseball. It was signed by Babe Ruth...
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Old 10-13-2011, 04:43 PM
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That's actually extremely critical information. The common defense for these scoundrels is that they do their due diligence by getting LOA's for all their items. But if they offer a signature from a guy who died in 1955 on a ball that wasn't produced until 1960, wouldn't that be damning evidence?
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Old 10-13-2011, 05:05 PM
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What about going after Chris Morales in a civil action? Wouldn't he be judged by the reasonable man standard, meaning he couldn't plead stupidity as a defense? Seems to me if Morales was hit with a lawsuit or two, he might find it too expense to keep giving LOAs.
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