Sir shill is at it again

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by slidekellyslide

I completely disagree..this isn't some shady basement dweller making these cards it's a beer company doing it...they should be putting dates on these cards...and not only are they leaving off dates, but they are also using the R319 catalog number on fantasy cards??? This company also made Cap Anson padlocks that fooled a lot of veteran memorabilia collectors. I think what they are doing is highly irresponsible.

You might disagree with me, but you're stating that you disagree with something I didn't say. I agree with you that they should identify these as not being actual old cards. I think I actually stated as much.

Do you really disagree that people have to take responsibility for their own actions? that they should be spending big bucks on items they know nothing about?

Scott <===not the same as his straw man

[glchen]

The part about people having to take responsibility for their own actions is VERY gray. This is true if the seller is very forthcoming about their actions. However, if the seller is not, like in this case where they are deliberating not dating the cards, then it is suspect. Your thought is like saying that all of the people that Bernie Madoff deceived are 100% at fault, and Madoff is not. Those investing in Madoff should've known that this guaranteed returns were impossible. There is a part where people should be responsible for themselves, but should they if they are being scammed?

[slidekellyslide]

Originally Posted by Runscott

You might disagree with me, but you're stating that you disagree with something I didn't say. I agree with you that they should identify these as not being actual old cards. I think I actually stated as much.

Do you really disagree that people have to take responsibility for their own actions? that they should be spending big bucks on items they know nothing about?

Scott <===not the same as his straw man

People definitely should educate themselves before plunking down big dollars for fantasy items, the problem I see is that this company not only is making these cards, but also manufacturing fantasy memorabilia items like the Anson Padlock...as you and I both know there are plenty of memorabilia items out there that are thought to be one of a kinds..when you make something to look old, don't date it or put any identifying marks on it at all then IMO you're being irresponsible. If you ran into that padlock in an antique mall you wouldn't know it wasn't old.

http://www.antique-padlocks.com/pg_s...lmar_anson~1~2

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by slidekellyslide

People definitely should educate themselves before plunking down big dollars for fantasy items, the problem I see is that this company not only is making these cards, but also manufacturing fantasy memorabilia items like the Anson Padlock...as you and I both know there are plenty of memorabilia items out there that are thought to be one of a kinds..when you make something to look old, don't date it or put any identifying marks on it at all then IMO you're being irresponsible. If you ran into that padlock in an antique mall you wouldn't know it wasn't old.

http://www.antique-padlocks.com/pg_s...lmar_anson~1~2

I agree that they are being irresponsible. Makes you wonder what their intent is, making items like the padlock you describe.