One T206, Two Names

[ruth-gehrig]

I just saw one tonight rummaging through some older gentleman's stuff. I didn't get it (yet) because we need to sort through the cards. It was a weird collection...many original cards, 2 graded...and several I believe were fake!

[Abravefan11]

When examples come up with two different names on one card it's important to my research to know which back brand, series and factory number is on the card. Anytime this information can be included with a post it would be greatly appreciated.

[Anthony S.]

I own a copy of the Snodgrass (batting) with Maddox's name on top. It's a Piedmont 350, Fact. no. 25.

Originally Posted by Abravefan11

When examples come up with two different names on one card it's important to my research to know which back brand, series and factory number is on the card. Anytime this information can be included with a post it would be greatly appreciated.

[t206hound]

Jantz may have more info, but this is what I know from other threads:

01. Abbaticchio(Brown)-Cicotte (Piedmont 350)
02. Atz-Hoffman (Piedmont 350)
03. Bradley-Bender (Piedmont 150)
04. Chase(BluePortrait)-Zimmerman (Piedmont 350)
05. Delehanty(Washington)-Waddell
06. Elberfeld(NewYork)-Parent (Piedmont 350)
07. Engle-Phillippe (Piedmont 350)
08. Hoblitzell-Stephens (Piedmont 350)
09. Jennings(Portrait)-Jordan (Piedmont 350)
10. Killian(Pitching)-Chance (Piedmont 150)
11. Killian(Portrait)-Dubuc (Sweet Caporal 350 Factory 30)
12. Lindaman-Bresnahan (Piedmont 150)
13. Lundgren(Cubs)-Ball
14. Lundgren(Cubs)-Doolin
15. McElveen-Dygert (Piedmont 350)
16. McGlynn-Jones (Sweet Caporal 350 Factory 30)
17. Pickering-Myers (Sweet Caporal 350 Factory ?)
18. Snodgrass(Batting)-Maddox (Piedmont 350)
19. Spade-Cicotte (Piedmont 150)
20. Turner-Lobert

[Abravefan11]

Thanks Anthony and Erick that information is greatly appreciated.

[teetwoohsix]

Great thread Jantz, and great info Erick. So, it seems the majority are Piedmont & Sweet Caporal 150 & 350....anyone seen any of these in the 460 series?

Sincerely, Clayton

[Jantz]

Here is all the information that I have been able to gather on two different name T206s so far.

01. Abbaticchio (brown)-Cicotte PD350
02. Atz - Hoffman (Providence) PD350
03. Bradley (port.) - Bender PD150-25
04. Chase (blue port.) - Zimmerman PD350-25
05. Delehanty (Wash.) - Waddell back unknown
06. Elberfeld (NY port.) - Parent PD350
07. Engle - Phillippe PD350-25
08. Hoblitzell - Stephens PD350
09. Jennings (port.) - T. Jordan (Brooklyn) PD350-25
10. Killian (pitching) - Chance PD150
11. Killian (port.) - Dubuc SC350-30
12. Lindaman - Bresnahan PD150-25
13. Lundgren (Cubs) - Ball (NY) back unknown
14. Lundgren (Cubs) - Doolin PD150-25
15. McElveen - Dygert PD350
16. McGlynn - Jones (Detroit) SC350-30
17. Pickering - Myers (?) SC350
18. Snodgrass (batting) - Maddox PD350-25
19. Spade - Cicotte PD150-25
20. Turner - Lobert back unknown
21. McGraw (no cap port.) - Chesbro back unknown

Most of these cards are owned by board members and I have gotten my information and scans from them. The exceptions being #20 & 21 which came from T206museum. I've read the history of that website and it's owner, but I cannot rule out the possibility (at this time) that those two cards are legit.

Clayton - So far, none from the 460 series.

Erick - I was going to pass along the information about #21 to you after I won the Bradley/Bender I'm glad the Bradley/Bender has a good home now.

Tim - Hopefully the board members who own some of these cards will add some more information to the list.


Jantz

[mrvster]

I own#6 #10 and #17.......and yes on #17!! ur right on the back Jantz...btw , email me Jantz, u rock!!

Jantz, Tim, Erick, and Clayton......plz keep up the great stats, were counting on you guys....


if anyone wants to part with one of these, lmk, or any t206 freaks

[t206hound]

Originally Posted by Jantz

20. Turner - Lobert back unknown
21. McGraw (no cap port.) - Chesbro back unknown

Most of these cards are owned by board members and I have gotten my information and scans from them. The exceptions being #20 & 21 which came from T206museum. I've read the history of that website and it's owner, but I cannot rule out the possibility (at this time) that those two cards are legit.
Jantz

The Turner-Lobert was in the September 2007 Sotheby's auction. I'd say that makes it a legit.
http://viewer.zmags.com/publication/...7#/35575027/36

[teetwoohsix]

Thanks Jantz- this is great info, and I appreciate you guys sharing your research with us.

21 known to exist- I'd say that makes these extremely rare. I'd guess that there could be a few more floating around out there "unknown"- just a guess.

I think they are awesome !!!

Johnny- how's it going my friend? Hope all is well on the East coast-

Sincerely, Clayton

[ruth-gehrig]

I don't really collect cards but like I said earlier while rummaging through some gentleman's other stuff for sale I noticed a t-206 with a name on partial name on top and bottom. So let me see if I've got this right...as of now we know of 21 different cards within this set with two names on the front of the card? That's not saying there are only 21 known cards known TOTAL does it? That would be more rare than the Wagner!

[drazz5]

Originally Posted by Jantz

Most of these cards are owned by board members and I have gotten my information and scans from them. The exceptions being #20 & 21 which came from T206museum. I've read the history of that website and its owner, but I cannot rule out the possibility (at this time) that those two cards are legit.

Jantz, I’m curious what you mean by this. Is there something questionable with the history of that site? Just wondering since this is the first time I’m hearing this.

[Scott L.]

Originally Posted by drazz5

Jantz, I’m curious what you mean by this. Is there something questionable with the history of that site? Just wondering since this is the first time I’m hearing this.

Jantz sadly passed away a number of years ago.

[drazz5]

Sorry to hear that - thanks for the information.

[rjackson44]

Originally Posted by Anthony S.

I own a copy of the Snodgrass (batting) with Maddox's name on top. It's a Piedmont 350, Fact. no. 25.

Pretty

[Leon]

Cool, old thread...

[Pat R]

A couple of new ones both Piedmont 350's Poland/Peaches Graham and Weimer/Billy Gilbert

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American Beauty 350 framed
Hinchman, H. - Taylor

Cycle 350
Beck - Unglaub

El Principe De Gales
Young - Rucker
Stovall (port.) - Lajoie (throwing)

Old Mill (Baseball Series)
Griffith (port.) - Chase (?)

Old Mill (Southern League)
Miller - Orth

Piedmont 150
Beaumont - Seymour
Bender (port.) - Delehanty (Wash.)
Bergen (bat) - Dooin
Brown, M (port.) - Magee (port.)
Bradley (port.) - Bender (port.)
Dahlen (Boston) - Wagner (Boston)
Devlin - Schulte (front view)
Evers (port.) - Chance (red port.)
Hinchman, B. - Stovall (port.)
Jennings (port.) - Jordan (port.)
Johnson (port.) - Schlei (catching)
Joss (port) - Criss
Konetchy - Jennings (port.)
Killian (pitching) - Chance (red port.)
Lindaman - Bresnahan (port.)
Lundgren (Cubs) - Doolin
Lundgren (Cubs) - Ball (New York)
Manning (batting) - Flick
Pastorius - Lake (NY, throw)
Powell (horizontal) - O'Leary (port.)
Rucker - Young?
Shipke - Griffith
Spade - Cicotte
Steinfeldt (port.) - Kling
Walsh - Seymour (batting)

Piedmont 350
Abbaticchio (brown) - Cicotte
Atz - Hoffman (Providence)
Butler - Raymond
Chance (yellow port.) - Feine (?)
Chase (blue port.) - Zimmerman
Chase (White Cap) - Jacklitsch
Delehanty (Wash.) - Waddell (port.)
Egan - Warhop
Elberfeld (NY port.) - Parent
Engle - Phillippe
Ganzel - Downs
Griffith (port.) - Chase (?)
Herzog (NY) - Ritchey
Hoblitzell - Stephens
Hunter - Quinn
Jackson - Hoffman (St. Louis)
Jennings (port.) - Jordan (port.)
Livingstone - Maloney
Marquard (port) - Cree
McElveen - Dygert
McGinley - Speaker
McGraw (no cap port.) - Chesbro
McIntyre (Detroit) - Hoffman (St. Louis)
Moran, H. - Arrellanes
Oakes - Easterly
Poland - Peaches Graham
Rossman - McBride
Schmidt - Starr
Shaw - Chappelle
Snodgrass (batting) - Maddox
Turner - Lobert
Turner - O'Leary
Wallace - Sullivan
Walsh - Brown, M (port.)
Weimer - Billy Gilbert

Piedmont 350 SL
Miller - Orth

Sweet Caporal 150-25
Manning-Flick

Sweet Caporal 350-25
Lennox - Clancy

Sweet Caporal 350-30
Barbeau - Strang
Graham (St. Louis) - Clark (Columbus)
Graham (Boston) - Burns
Killian (port.) - Dubuc
McGlynn - Jones (Detroit)
Rossman - Thomas
Schmidt (Portrait) - Sweeney (Bill)
Wagner, Heinie (left shoulder) - Schlei (catching)

Sweet Caporal - factory number unknown
Bowerman - Chance (front ?)
McGraw (front ?) - Hayden
Pickering - Myers (front )

The rest - back information unknown or damaged
Bresnahan (port.) - Doolin
Criger - Ritchey
Keeler (front ?) - McGraw (front ?)
Walsh - Lumley Piedmont (back damage - no series number)

[stutor]

This popped up on eBay recently and was purchased immediately (not by me). Just wanted to share the pic here as it isn’t on the comprehensive list.

[hank_jp]

I have the following:

Turner/Lobert - it has a Piedmont 350 back
Bowerman with Chance on top - SC 350
McGraw with Hayden on top - SC 350
Stahl with glove - majorly miscut - top 1/4 of card is blank [white with no
printing, including back] - Piedmont 350

Hank