How bout that ebay!!!!! Sit down to read this one.

[brianp-beme]

Because of situations like these I swear to Bob Almighty (whoever that might be) that I will start putting up auction lots on GRAND SLAM BIDS in about a week. We have an alternative people...let's start turning our focus to it!

Brian

[T206Collector]

I've been buying and selling on ebay for nearly a decade, with over 700 positive feedback (t-206collector). I have left exactly ZERO negative feedbacks in my life. I have received exactly ZERO negative feedbacks in my life. Do you think that means that I've had no ebay issues over 10 years? Of course not. I just happen to think it is nobody's responsibility to identify the pond scum floating on ebay. Doing so with publicly viewable feedbacks can only come back to bite you. And, it will do no good in ridding the world of pond scum.

[bobbyw8469]

C'mon Dan'o. When have I ever asked ANYONE not to say something as long as their name is by their post? I think this is one of the most open forums on the internet, however names have to be by posts when making certain comments.

I will gladly post my name, because I don't want to have to watch what I say!

[danmckee]

I can appreciate your position T206collector but I have never been the one to turn their back and let someone else get involved when I see a problem. I work very hard to report fraud in the baseball card category when I see it and I would have hoped ebay cares more about illegal fraud then stupid star ratings but I guess I am wrong.

[T206Collector]

Originally Posted by danmckee

I can appreciate your position T206collector but I have never been the one to turn their back and let someone else get involved when I see a problem. I work very hard to report fraud in the baseball card category when I see it and I would have hoped ebay cares more about illegal fraud then stupid star ratings but I guess I am wrong.

Ebay gets a commission on every sale. Ergo, they will support every sale that is legally defensible. Negative feedbacks on sellers who get to the line but are not technically legally over the line hurt Ebay's bottom line. When you start moving away from that line into pure honest sales, it is very hard for a mega-corporation to take a moral stance one way or the other. It is hard to draw a line in the sand on the scum-o-meter, when there is a hard line of legality a little further down the shore.

[brianp-beme]

Grand Slam! Grand Slam! Grand Slam!

Brian (the instigator)

[YankeeCollector]

Originally Posted by T206Collector

I've been buying and selling on ebay for nearly a decade, with over 700 positive feedback (t-206collector). I have left exactly ZERO negative feedbacks in my life. I have received exactly ZERO negative feedbacks in my life. Do you think that means that I've had no ebay issues over 10 years? Of course not. I just happen to think it is nobody's responsibility to identify the pond scum floating on ebay. Doing so with publicly viewable feedbacks can only come back to bite you. And, it will do no good in ridding the world of pond scum.

+1

[danmckee]

Well I am a registered expert in the baseball card category and even though they have SHIT ON ME this time I am going to continue to do my job and shut down the trash that tries to steal!!! That is the entire purpose why I spend countless hours working for free for them and the main reason I am pissed they allowed the trash to have my FB removed.


Bill Cornell once told me that he firmly believes in the feedback system and I will still give my all to help clean up the baseball card category.

Bill, you are my hero!!!

Dan

[Aric]

Do you ever leave positive feedback but low-star ratings? If so, ebay frowns upons this and considers it bad feedback behavior. A seller can have a low-dsr score removed if the buyer leaves a corresponding positive feedback. Perhaps one of your recent bad sellers called in to complain about the negative, ebay saw the pattern of low-dsr's and nuked them all.

[T206Collector]

Originally Posted by danmckee

I am going to continue to do my job and shut down the trash that tries to steal!

Sisyphus will get to the top of his hill first.

It's an internet market place that is driven by the individual buyers and sellers around the world, and is dependent upon their freedom of action. Pure capitalism and anarchy meet each other at opposite ends of the spectrum on ebay.

You've got a dog that is ebay; you've got a huge flea problem -- but in this case, the dog is in a state of symbiosis with the fleas. If you kill enough fleas, the dog starts to get sick.

The only reason eBay even bothers to "register experts" is to appease them; not because they actually are better off if the experts do something about the market-generated problems.

In other words, the problems of ebay are inherent in any serialized market-place. The alternative is single auction houses with individual consignors and buyers, where everything has to be managed centrally. Of course there the costs are higher and you reach a smaller, if not more specialized, audience.

If you want to play on ebay -- and you want ebay to be ebay -- there will always be people trying to take advantage of the purity and simplicity of the system. To put it upon yourself to regulate a purposefully unregulated marketplace -- a marketplace that is actually designed to be unregulated -- is a monster headache that you should not keep giving yourself. Just about everything else imaginable is a better use of your time.

[xdrx]

Well put T206.

It seems a more useful approach would be to accumulate names of problematic ebay sellers and buyers here. I think maybe that sort of thread already exists?

[Exhibitman]

Dan, you ought to get a purple heart for the nonsense you have to deal with on fleabay.

When I saw that feedback was a waste of time I decided not to waste my time leaving it. I do not leave feedback for anyone any more; haven't for years. If I get the occasional PO'd troll demanding feedback I simply ignore them until they go away. When I have a problem as a buyer I let my charge-back speak for me.

I cannot believe that ebay is seriously considering capping a persons sales activity. Talk about stupid.

FWIW, with the ever closer convergence of ebay fees and auction house fees, and with the ever-increasing potential for getting hosed as a seller, I have all but quit selling through Ebay.