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Old 10-10-2011, 04:52 AM
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I suspect the next step is this card will be consigned to one of those marginal country auctions, one with a "no returns, all sales are final" policies. And you just know someone will buy it, figuring if it is real he will get it cheap and make a killing on it. And then you will never hear from these two guys again. That will be the end of their days in the public eye.

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Old 10-10-2011, 05:59 AM
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I suspect the next step is this card will be consigned to one of those marginal country auctions, one with a "no returns, all sales are final" policies. And you just know someone will buy it, figuring if it is real he will get it cheap and make a killing on it. And then you will never hear from these two guys again. That will be the end of their days in the public eye.

Sounds like the business model of Coaches Corner -- get a BS authentication and then sell the item for a small percentage of what it would be worth if it was authentic to an unsuspecting wet-behind-the-ears novice who thinks he made a killing.
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Old 10-10-2011, 08:58 AM
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A few pics sent by board member John D....the original fake?
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Old 10-10-2011, 04:22 PM
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A few pics sent by board member John D....the original fake?
I'm taking offers on this card btw, you can't have the 1909 penny though, that's actually worth something
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Old 10-10-2011, 05:03 PM
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I'm taking offers on this card btw, you can't have the 1909 penny though, that's actually worth something
John!!! I was just thinking about you today, as I posted that 't206 errors' article to my website - I was wondering why I gave you a by-line.
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John!!! I was just thinking about you today, as I posted that 't206 errors' article to my website - I was wondering why I gave you a by-line.
Thanks Scott, I seem to think I still know something about t206 errors but for some reason when I finished the set about 7 years ago I stopped collecting them so I've probably forgot a lot of what I used to know. Im hoping that one of the things I forgot was that my Wagner is one of the unreleased ones....fingers crossed
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At this point, whether the card sells or not, the sellers are ultimately screwed.

If the card never sells, which is likely, they are met with an unrealized dream, plus much wasted time, money and effort -- all for nothing but a little time in the spotlight and plenty of embarassment.

If the card does sell, the new owner will most likely attempt to have it authenticated and will receive the obvious result. They'll then, in turn, sue the original sellers. This card has gotten enough publicity, as have the current owners, that they'll have no place to hide. The card will not hold up in a court of law and they'll be guilty of fraud.

So, either way, this does not end well for Mr. Cobb and Mr. Edwards.

I'm not saying we should sit idly by, and watch someone get scammed, but those are the two likely outcomes.

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They've created their own reality distortion field.
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LMFAO Thanks....

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Did anyone notice the picture they used to help you learn about the t206 set? Looks like four of those cards are just as real t206's as the Wagner they are trying to sell.

For full disclosure, I hope it does sell for 10x what it is actually worth and the person who buys it, takes it famous places and takes pictures with it, Flat Honus
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Did anyone notice the examiners cert calls it an unrealesed version instead of an unreleased version.....
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Did anyone notice the examiners cert calls it an unrealesed version instead of an unreleased version.....
The entire website is filled with misspellings, malapropisms and unintentional (but humorous) errors.

I predict the card won't get higher than $1000 if eBay decides to allow the auction to run to completion but you never know. If the price remains low -- at least relative to T206 Wagners that are authentic -- it's going to be a more difficult task for Cobb and Edwards to try to paint all potential eBay buyers as racists.

If, however, the card sells for much more, I have to think that we will see a lawsuit at some point after the new owner submits the card to PSA, SGC and/or Beckett.

In the long run it is difficult to see how Cobb and Edwards are going to profit from their obtusely contrived business venture.
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