OT: Two Incredible collapses in one night

jcmtiger · #1 10-07-2011, 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yanks12025

How we had chances every inning of the game to score a bunch of runs, the score should have been 6+. But no the yankee hitters let trash pitchers become Cy Young. And it didn't help that the Ump gave better pitches to the Tigers pitchers then the Yankees(look up the strike zone comparison between before teams).

Well, Tigers had the better pitching and Yankees are going home like I said earlier. Arod is gone, and Valverde showed he is the best closer in baseball.

Bring on the Rangers they will be easier than the Yankees.

Joe

Joe_G. · #2 10-07-2011, 12:24 AM

I'm happy with the outcome, but it was far from a perfect series for either team. I hope the Tigers can gather themselves a bit before Saturday. Verlander, Scherzer, and Fister provided some solid pitching together with some critical offense from unlikely players. These were the keys to slipping past a Yankee team that missed out on some big opportunities in their 3 losses. I watched every pitch and don't share the same feelings as Brock on the strike zone. IMO, it was different game-to-game but applied equally to both teams.

Joe Maples, don't be jinxing the Tigers.

I'm off to Dallas to hopefully enjoy U Texas, OU game early and Tigers, Rangers late.

Congrats to all the teams that made it to post season play, the winners and losers.

oldjudge · #3 10-07-2011, 12:36 AM

Congratulations to all the Tiger fans and good luck against the Rangers. I was at the game and the lack of clutch hitting by the Yankees was really disappointing. Joe-I think youy are right on about A-Rod and Sabathia. I think Swisher will be gone next year also. The only bright spot was that Posada went out with a good final series.

Joe_G. · #4 10-07-2011, 01:07 AM

Jay, I couldn't agree more with Posada. Nice guy, great series. There were several Yankees that performed above expectations. I was uneasy every time Gardner and Cano stepped into the batter box. Granderson played hard as well, he was my favorite position player before he decided to wear pin stripes. When the Yankees aren't playing the Tigers, I silently root for him.

I'm just glad cumulative runs scored doesn't determine the series winner. NY blasted the Tigers in games 1 & 4. But the Tigers found a way to hold onto 3 close ones.

barrysloate · #5 10-07-2011, 06:10 AM

Problem with the Yankees is their core players are getting old and nearing the ends of their careers. Sure, the team will throw a $100 million or so at some overpriced free agents, but it's likely they are beginning a period of mediocrity. Jeter, A-Rod, Mariano, Posada, among others, really can't be replaced.

vintagechris · #6 10-07-2011, 06:13 AM

I always hate when fans from the losing team whine about the refs or the umps.
Take the loss like a grown up and move on.

The Tigers won the series like many people who were not wearing Yankees goggles, thought they would. It was an exciting game last night. Seemed like the game was on the line with every pitch, especially those last three innings.

Great entertainment. I really think the Tigers are spent. The Rangers should be going back to the World Series for the 2nd year in a row. Pulling for the hometown boy Josh Hamilton.

bh3443 · #7 10-07-2011, 06:42 AM

Great entertainment. I really think the Tigers are spent. The Rangers should be going back to the World Series for the 2nd year in a row. Pulling for the hometown boy Josh Hamilton.[/QUOTE]

I hope Hamilton gets a ring! He deserves it.

BleedinBlue · #8 10-07-2011, 06:54 AM

And just like that...

The AL East is gone...

yanks12025 · #9 10-07-2011, 07:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vintagechris

I always hate when fans from the losing team whine about the refs or the umps.
Take the loss like a grown up and move on.

The Tigers won the series like many people who were not wearing Yankees goggles, thought they would. It was an exciting game last night. Seemed like the game was on the line with every pitch, especially those last three innings.

Great entertainment. I really think the Tigers are spent. The Rangers should be going back to the World Series for the 2nd year in a row. Pulling for the hometown boy Josh Hamilton.

It's not whining when there's proof to prove that the strike zones were different for each team. Half the time the Tigers pitchers got the outside corner, while the Yankees could only get a strike down the middle. Look up the charts, look at how the players acted because of the bad zones and even TBS made comments.

calvindog · #10 10-07-2011, 07:19 AM

The Yankees didn't lose because of the umps. They lost because their starting pitching is mediocre as has been their ace the past month of the season. They lost because they've got a zillion dollars tied up in ARod who is actually probably worth about $5 million a year instead of $30 million -- and they're stuck with that albatross of a contract for another six years. Brett Gardner is worth more than ARod right now. They lost because they've overpaid Jeter going forward. They've got a handful of solid players and a few fantastic ones. They got what they deserved and any dispassionate observer could have seen this coming in this series.

vintagechris · #11 10-07-2011, 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yanks12025

It's not whining when there's proof to prove that the strike zones were different for each team. Half the time the Tigers pitchers got the outside corner, while the Yankees could only get a strike down the middle. Look up the charts, look at how the players acted because of the bad zones and even TBS made comments.

It's human element. Besides, I thought Benoit had quite a few pitches that didn't go his way when he got into trouble. They sure weren't giving him the outside corner. Sorry Brock, but each time your team lost you complained about the strike zone. To me, that is whining.

I know you may not want to admit this, but the Tigers were the better team. The better team won.

I am one of those people that believe officiating any kind of game is such a thankless job. You are always going to have someone upset with you.

jcmtiger · #12 10-07-2011, 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe_G.

I'm happy with the outcome, but it was far from a perfect series for either team. I hope the Tigers can gather themselves a bit before Saturday. Verlander, Scherzer, and Fister provided some solid pitching together with some critical offense from unlikely players. These were the keys to slipping past a Yankee team that missed out on some big opportunities in their 3 losses. I watched every pitch and don't share the same feelings as Brock on the strike zone. IMO, it was different game-to-game but applied equally to both teams.

Joe Maples, don't be jinxing the Tigers.

I'm off to Dallas to hopefully enjoy U Texas, OU game early and Tigers, Rangers late.

Congrats to all the teams that made it to post season play, the winners and losers.

Hi Joe G. Hope your Old Judge collection is growing. I am in the minority, don't believe in Jinxes.

That trip to Dallas sounds great, enjoy.

yanks12025 · #13 10-07-2011, 10:51 AM

The yankees are only going to get Younger for next year. A.J wont be back, Posada is going to retire, Swisher can leave. . Yankees will sign Yu Darvish, Montero will be in the line-up full-time, Nova will be a starter, same as Hughes. I'm not sure yet that i even would want the Yankees to sign C.C back cause he's choked in the last two playoffs. So I'm thinking, 1. Yu Darvish, 2. C.C 3. Nova, 4. Hughes, 5. Either sign C.J. Wilson or another one of our young arms.

barrysloate · #14 10-07-2011, 11:02 AM

Sabathia's problem is he is carrying far too much weight. He was having a fine season until fatigue set in. If he shed 20-30 pounds, he would have had a better September and October.

carrigansghost · #15 10-07-2011, 11:05 AM

Yu Darvish???? Please take Dice-k at a discount.

Rawn

Orioles1954 · #16 10-07-2011, 12:38 PM

The track record of Japanese pitchers translating (no pun intended) to the big leagues is not too good. It seems as if the best only have a couple year shelflife.

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