BIDDING WAR on Ebay - Ty Cobb Tin

[perezfan]

Originally Posted by prewarsports

Looking at the bidding history, am I the only one here who thinks that this seems VERY fishy? I doubt this is a legit sale up to this point and they are fishing for one legit buyer over 40K, but hey, what do I know!

Rhys

That could well be... I suspected the same, but it could also be potential suitors fishing for the reserve (which I agree is set too high). Seems awfully early in the game for that , though...

[Leon]

Not sure this one is passing the smell test.

Rawn- yeap, at 40k, and a reserve that is higher than that, he can't afford to pay for shipping/insurance. Deal breaker for me.

[canjond]

Leon - you are correct... that $40k Legendary one is the only Ty Cobb tin to ever sell (at least publicly) in that price range. I believe one in REA (maybe) sold for around $20k... Others have sold in the $10k-$15k range.

[smokelessjoe]

Anyone notice the location of the seller? I find it interesting that it is the same location as the company who manufactured Ty Cobb Tobacco (F. R. Penn Tobacco Co. in Reidsville, NC (Factory #33) was located. Not sure what to make of that?

Shawn

[D. Bergin]

Originally Posted by smokelessjoe

Anyone notice the location of the seller? I find it interesting that it is the same location as the company who manufactured Ty Cobb Tobacco (F. R. Penn Tobacco Co. in Reidsville, NC (Factory #33) was located. Not sure what to make of that?

Shawn

Warehouse Find?

Soon there will be more of these on the market, then Kruk Cards has pallets of "Collegiate Collection" cards?

[canjond]

Originally Posted by smokelessjoe

Anyone notice the location of the seller? I find it interesting that it is the same location as the company who manufactured Ty Cobb Tobacco (F. R. Penn Tobacco Co. in Reidsville, NC (Factory #33) was located. Not sure what to make of that?

Shawn

Actually makes sense to me. This was likely very limited or just a "test market" item. I would imagine most would turn up around the original place of manufacturer. it would be my odd, IMO, if this turned up on the west coast, for example.

[smokelessjoe]

Hey Jon,

I agree, it does make sense... Just thought it was interesting. I do not think we have been aware of the sellers location before?

Side Note: I did read (somewhere) that F.R. Penn had an office in Atlanta, Ga. back in the day.

[barrysloate]

Surprised the seller turned down a 40K bid. What was he hoping for?

[Brendan]

My guess is the seller plans to sell it an auction somewhere in the future and wants to increase market value....should have done it more discretely and not at an outrageous price though...

What always irks me about these is the seller says in his description "after extensive research I have decided to sell it." Really? Extensive research? Is reading about it on the Internet for a half hour extensive research? Even if he did do extensive research in order to sell it, why should I care?

[benjulmag]

Not including this one (which I render no opinion on given the small size of the photos), I am aware of only two examples that do not have serious condition issues. One is the one Legendary sold, the other as I recall was sold some years earlier and went for about 50k. If in fact this one is in really good condition, then it should sell for a substantial premium over what the other lesser-conditioned ones sold for.

[DaveH]

The TV show "Auction Kings" sold one at auction earlier this year. They also
said there was only 7 or 8 in existence. As I recall it only went for $6-7000.
That's assuming their auctions are real and not fabricated for TV.

dh

[canjond]

Originally Posted by DaveH

The TV show "Auction Kings" sold one at auction earlier this year. They also
said there was only 7 or 8 in existence. As I recall it only went for $6-7000.
That's assuming their auctions are real and not fabricated for TV.

dh

This makes #13 on the list of Cobb tins I've tracked. I used to have images of all but 3, but a hard drive crash a few years ago wiped out a few older images. Right now I have images of 5 different (not including the auction kings one, the legendary one, or this one). Of those images, 3 are in very nice condition.

[GrayGhost]

I don't want to poo poo on this, but why are those pictures so small? Is everyone sure this is authentic? Stories like this one of the guy sound so "fairytale" like, makes me wonder. he said he sent pics to major auctions. Well, a picture, especially those sized, does NOT guarantee things to be real, right?

Anyone else wondering this?

[Leon]

Originally Posted by GrayGhost

I don't want to poo poo on this, but why are those pictures so small? Is everyone sure this is authentic? Stories like this one of the guy sound so "fairytale" like, makes me wonder. he said he sent pics to major auctions. Well, a picture, especially those sized, does NOT guarantee things to be real, right?

Anyone else wondering this?

The small scans were a yellow flag for me, immediately. I don't know about the tin being real or not (positively) but the auction on ebay, itself, smells to holy heaven. I have some serious concerns about the "auction".