OT: Two Incredible collapses in one night

Brendan · #1 09-29-2011, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by mr2686

What a great day of baseball! You have to hand it to the Rays and the Cards for hanging in and playing their best baseball down the stretch. You also have to tip your cap to the Orioles, Yankees and Phillies for playing hard when they had nothing to gain. Also, the Rays would have to be down right stupid to ever get rid of Longoria...he came to play!

The Yankees didn't play hard. If they put their best pitchers in and kept a decent lineup out there they would certainly have won.

sayhey24 · #2 09-29-2011, 02:52 PM

The Tigers will be very tough for two reasons -- Verlander and Valverde -- they are both pretty amazing.

I actually think the Orioles are a fun team playing in a great stadium -- it would be good for baseball if they could find a way to have a resurgence.

Greg

mr2686 · #3 09-29-2011, 03:08 PM

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The Yankees didn't play hard. If they put their best pitchers in and kept a decent lineup out there they would certainly have won.

They played as hard as they should have, let's put it that way. What did you want from them?...they had a 7 run lead going in to the bottom of the 8th. They used 11 pitchers and their starting players had at least 3 - 4 at bats.
I guess they could have had A-Rod come out and hurt his ailing knee so that he'd be out for the playoffs or use Rivera for a couple of innings so that he couldn't be used on Friday.

Brendan · #4 09-29-2011, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by mr2686

They played as hard as they should have, let's put it that way. What did you want from them?...they had a 7 run lead going in to the bottom of the 8th. They used 11 pitchers and their starting players had at least 3 - 4 at bats.
I guess they could have had A-Rod come out and hurt his ailing knee so that he'd be out for the playoffs or use Rivera for a couple of innings so that he couldn't be used on Friday.

They played harder than they should have. It was a meaningless game. I think you thought I said that they didn't play hard as if it was a bad thing. I don't think the players take the rivalry as serious as the fans do, but I can assure you they don't like the Red Sox and losing a seven run lead in the Rays/Red Sox most important game of the season sounds like good payback for 2004.

matthew · #5 09-29-2011, 08:29 PM

I really thought the Phillies might try to let the Braves have the wild card. Who would you rather face, Cards or D-Backs? Arizona is good, but StL is on a roll.

As long as the NL wins the Series, it is all good.

P.S. Who else got tired of the Sox-Rays fight for the wild card dominating the airwaves? It seemed at times that the Cards-Braves were an afterthought. I waited through the 1st 15 minutes of the MLB Network show the other night before any mention of the NL race. Then I got 11 minutes on the NL. I timed it.

carrigansghost · #6 09-29-2011, 03:12 PM

get rid of Angelos, show up to the park and clean up the city. Baltimore?? Seriously?? At least they talk about the Red Sox and I,ve lived through my share of letdowns. 'Tis better to have loved and lost than to have never had a chance. These O's fans were the guys that went to prom alone and sat with each other wondering were the girl were, while some of us were dancing with them and ended up taking one out later. Enjoy your empty bleachers.

Yes I did cheer for the Yanks last night.

Rawn

oldjudge · #7 09-29-2011, 03:26 PM

The Tigers have the best starting pitching in the AL playoffs. Besides Verlander they have the best pitcher over the last month and a half in baseball. In Doug Fister's last eight starts he has given up one run four times and no runs four times for an ERA over this period of 0.65.

packs · #8 09-29-2011, 03:37 PM

I really wish the Yankees were playing Texas. Detroit is going to be tough in a 5 games series, especially if they are able to throw Verlander twice.

hunterdutchess · #9 09-29-2011, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by oldjudge

The Tigers have the best starting pitching in the AL playoffs. Besides Verlander they have the best pitcher over the last month and a half in baseball. In Doug Fister's last eight starts he has given up one run four times and no runs four times for an ERA over this period of 0.65.

+1
& best hitter, catcher, and closer in the A.L.
-Tigers in 4 (I hope)

calvindog · #10 09-29-2011, 08:52 PM

The idea that the Yankees are the favorites in the AL is a joke -- their pitching sucks. After CC -- who hasn't pitched well of late -- they've got Nova and Garcia. I'll take either Detroit or Texas over them.

yanks12025 · #11 09-29-2011, 09:05 PM

Lets see why the Yankees are the favorite, cause they have the best record in the American League. And Nova and Garcia have put up good numbers this year. So because their not big name pitchers like C.C or Justin doesn't mean the Yankees can't win and they will win. And Verlander didnt have great numbers vs the Yankees this year.

And I dont know what your on, but the Tigers closer is not better than Mariano Rivera hands down. Just because Jose had acouple more K's and saves this year, while Mo had under a 2.00 ERA.

I can't believe I'm the only Yankee fan here who actually believes in his team.

Brendan · #12 09-30-2011, 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by calvindog

Keep in mind that when the Yankees played the Sox last week in that extra inning game they kept ARod, Jeter, etc. on the bench the entire game -- even in a pinch hitting capacity.

Your point?

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Originally Posted by calvindog

The idea that the Yankees are the favorites in the AL is a joke -- their pitching sucks. After CC -- who hasn't pitched well of late -- they've got Nova and Garcia. I'll take either Detroit or Texas over them.

Nova and Garcia? They may not throw 97 mph but they've been winning games. Look at the Yankees pitching. Actually look at the numbers. Their starting pitching is top of the line. Every year, people want the Yankees to get some pitcher who is 12-12 with a 4.01 ERA (like that matters) to replace the stiff they have with a 16-7 record and a 3.67 ERA.

How about relief pitching? Dave Robertson. He's easily the best 8th inning guy in baseball and this is not a biased opinion. Then we have Mariano Rivera. Doesn't dominate his position like Dave Robertson has this year, but he's still top of the line.

I do find the moneyline odds at +180 (game 1) for Detroit are very high and I have taken advantage of that. Detroit may win (afterall anything can happen in these short series) but it won't be because of a lack of pitching from the Yankees.

calvindog · #13 09-29-2011, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Brendan

The Yankees didn't play hard. If they put their best pitchers in and kept a decent lineup out there they would certainly have won.

Keep in mind that when the Yankees played the Sox last week in that extra inning game they kept ARod, Jeter, etc. on the bench the entire game -- even in a pinch hitting capacity.

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