Ebay feedback conundrum

[vintagetoppsguy]

Kruk is one of the biggest shillers on eBay. This is probably just one of his shill accounts. In fact, there was a very detailed, informative thread about it over on CU until the mods took it down because Krook is one of their advertisers.

[whiteymet]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

Kruk is one of the biggest shillers on eBay. This is probably just one of his shill accounts. In fact, there was a very detailed, informative thread about it over on CU until the mods took it down because Krook is one of their advertisers.

I thought about it being a shill account, but wouldn't Krukcards have to pay final value fees to ebay? What's the sense of that?

[DJR]

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[whiteymet]

Originally Posted by DJR

Incorrect! Mutually agreeing to cancel a transaction purges the final value fees. In this case it looks legit, due to many BuyItNow purchases. However, I have had negative experiences with Kruk.

http://forums.collectors.com/message...hreadid=831330

After 600+ transactions cancelled with the same buyer, wouldn't that raise a red flag with ebay and they would do SOMETHING? After all they are losing $$$ in the deal.

[Cardboard Junkie]

I met him years and years ago at tally hall in michigan, cool old store. Kruk was P.O.ed because I just bought the dealers whole 52 high number stash, for 5 bucks each and Kruk was whinning about it. He's a jerk. dave

[DJR]

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[Brendan]

Originally Posted by whiteymet

After 600+ transactions cancelled with the same buyer, wouldn't that raise a red flag with ebay and they would do SOMETHING? After all they are losing $$$ in the deal.

eBay isn't complaining. Shilling increases the prices and the guy has probably paid eBay tens of thousands in fees. They turn a blind eye to things like this.

[irishdenny]

Originally Posted by Brendan

eBay isn't complaining. Shilling increases the prices and the guy has probably paid eBay tens of thousands in fees. They turn a blind eye to things like this.

Bingo!

& This is whats killin the American way!

[Teamsets4u]

Why would a shill purchase items out of the store inventory with BIN.
What is gained by that?

[whiteymet]

Originally Posted by Brendan

eBay isn't complaining. Shilling increases the prices and the guy has probably paid eBay tens of thousands in fees. They turn a blind eye to things like this.

But WHY would Krukcards pay all the fees if the items are not selling???? Since all these feedbacks are from the same guy (shiller) they are NOT being sold. So what advantage does krukcards have in doing this, not selling the lots AND paying the fees?

[Brendan]

Originally Posted by whiteymet

But WHY would Krukcards pay all the fees if the items are not selling???? Since all these feedbacks are from the same guy (shiller) they are NOT being sold. So what advantage does krukcards have in doing this, not selling the lots AND paying the fees?

It has been suggested that they're canceling the transactions. Not sure if you can leave feedback if you do that. I wouldn't be so sure it is a shiller. Have any of the cards been resold?

[hunterdutchess]

Originally Posted by whiteymet

I thought about it being a shill account, but wouldn't Krukcards have to pay final value fees to ebay? What's the sense of that?

You can leave feedback after or before a transaction has been canceled. This is a 100% shill account, no buyer is that loyal to a seller. I would report to ebay, criminal charges can be brought for this type of fraud.