Brown Lenox Prices

[Cardboard Junkie]

Aloha! I have collectd t206's for many decades.....never much payed much attention to the backs, other than avoiding cards with back damage. While flipping through my 206s I see I have a T206 Al Burch in fielding position with a brown lenox back "factory 30 2nd dist NY. It is a beater with multiple creases but all the print and pic are clear. For a long time I heard that the brown ones were just washed out black ones. The back is dingy and looks a little faded, but I have had it for 30+ yrs so I don't think it was ever deliberately doctored. Would fading do this? Will try to post a pic but I am a computer idiot. dave

[calvindog]

How about the 13K price on the red Hindu M. Brown?

[Abravefan11]

Jeff - The Brown Red Hindu price was strong to say the least, beautiful card regardless and hopefully the buyer is happy, we know the consignor is.

David - I'd love to see an image of your Burch. Please post one if you can. To answer your question fading is not the cause of the brown Lenox backs. It can be difficult to tell the difference in brown and black even in person unless you are familiar with both but the brown is a different color ink.

[Gradedcardman]

I agree with the observation of the backs and the prices. I do not have eidetic memory but have paid very close attention over the last few years as to what is for sale. The brown Lenox and the red Hindus do seem to be very infrequent in auctions. The red Hindu brown was the highest grade red Hindu I have seen of late. I agree with Tim that more of the brown Lenox cards are bound to surface. In the last year I know of at least 3 collections coming out of the closet with very difficult backs included. Exciting times !!

[cfc1909]

Brown Lenox Lajoie was the buy of the century for t206 backs. Could not have happened to a better person.

I am sure a few more browns will eventually show up but that will not change its position as the toughest t206 back distributed in packs. The backs reach new levels at just about every auction and Goodwins was no different.

As Tim said the browns will continue to rise in value. There are very few to be had and unlike the brown Old Mill with southern minor league players the brown Lenox comes with major league players and HOF players that will be a huge plus at auction. As the browns gain recognition it will be the ultimate tough back to have a brown with a HOF player on the front and even better a top tier HOFer like Cobb or Lajoie.

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[egbeachley]

Originally Posted by Cardboard Junkie

Aloha! I have collectd t206's for many decades.....never much payed much attention to the backs, other than avoiding cards with back damage. While flipping through my 206s I see I have a T206 Al Burch in fielding position with a brown lenox back "factory 30 2nd dist NY. It is a beater with multiple creases but all the print and pic are clear. For a long time I heard that the brown ones were just washed out black ones. The back is dingy and looks a little faded, but I have had it for 30+ yrs so I don't think it was ever deliberately doctored. Would fading do this? Will try to post a pic but I am a computer idiot. dave

The way to tell is easy.

When you look at it and say "I think it's brown....yep it's not black, definitely a brown tint to it.....yes, I'm almost certain it's brown"....then it's a faded black.

When you say "Holy Geez...now THAT'S a brown one!"...then it's brown.