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[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by chaddurbin

or request a refund since the card was not as advertised.

We don't know how the card was advertised. The OP didn't mention it.

[chaddurbin]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

We don't know how the card was advertised. The OP didn't mention it.

Originally Posted by tbob

You agree and buy the card which appears vg+ to vgex after the seller ups the price 60% from his original figure he gave you. You still agree. The card is received and sent to SGC which grades it as "authentic." You realize the card is not likely to be available for another 3 years or so.
Ok.

if tbob knowingly bought a recolored card for 160% this thread would not happen

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by chaddurbin

if tbob knowingly bought a recolored card for 160% this thread would not happen

I'm quite sure he wouldn't have knowingly bought a recolored card. You statement was "...request a refund since the card was not as advertised." You are ASSuming the card was advertised in a given condition.

For all we know, the seller may have described it "looks authentic, but I can't guarantee it will grade numerically."

Since the card was originally listed on eBay, it shouldn't be too hard to link the original listing.

Edited to add: I chose the last option. The first and last option are really the same, only worded differently. Looks like the majority of us would just eat it and move on.

[alanu]

I guess I would have to know if the 60% was $6 or $600 to opine on that issue.

If you aren't happy with the card request a return, if you are still satisfied with the card for your collection, request a partial refund, knowing that you might have to return the card or keep it at the higher price.

[vintagecpa]

I'd keep it. When the same card becomes available in another 3-5 years, you can always upgrade and sell the authentic card for portion of what you paid. Consider it cardboard rent.

[tbob]

Mike that's probably what I am going to do. To clarify things, sorry I was typing originally in stream of conciousness style, he said he would sell the card for $500. I agreed. He then sent an email that he was sorry, he didn't realize the card was so rare and said he would have to get $800 for it. I agreed again.
Obviously I didn't know the card was recolored. The dark border was "touched up," according to SGC. When I paid for the item I asked that he guarantee the card was authentic since there are so many counterfeits in this set (T200 Fatima) floating around. He did. The card IS authentic. I am glad I got the card as my set is now complete. I don't mean to sound like I am bitching, I merely wondered what my fellow collectors would do in this situation. There was a front and back scan provided.
I tried to find the original listing but apparently they disappear when an item is cancelled for sale. Again, there were no bids on the item when the agreement was struck if that means anything to anyone.
I am not thrilled about seeing cards I am interested in and bidding on "disappear" off ebay but when you wait several years (and a couple of Nationals) and can't find one, I think many of you would have jumped at the chance too. In Chicago I ran in to 3 other collectors hunting the card. Aggravating. Bottom line, I am ok with an authentic card for the set (it looks like an SGC 50 without the recoloration of the borders) so I will keep it.

[Leon]

Hey Bob
I have rarely seen such an evenly divided debate as this one. I guess you should have stated that you wanted it to grade numerically and that it wasn't altered. Most of us have made that mistake before. It's a shame though.....anyway, you have the card and that sounds like the most important thing to you at this time. take care and thanks for the nice, friendly discussion/debate....