How difficult is a collector grade t202 set?

[Bambino]

I absolutely love the look of these cards (colorful player portraits, action shots) but know nothing of their value. I saw one of the J. Knight/W. Johnson in PSA Good 2 condition around the $190 mark. Is that a fair price for such a card?

[itjclarke]

I'd think $190 may be a little steep, but as mentioned earlier, eye appeal on lower grades can be fantastic so may be still be worth it?? The last 2 of that card I saw sell got $127, while a really nice 1.5 (looked like a 5, but had spots of rear paper loss) got $170+. I got an incredible PSA-4 of it about a year ago for under $200. Prices I've watched have fluctuated a fair amount.

Regarding Lee's comment about the PSA backs.. my PSA-4 Cobb has a pretty rough back.. no paper loss but lots of fading, and I have a PSA-5 that has a pretty major ink blotch on the back. That said, I also have a couple PSA's that seem undergraded, and one SGC that seems a little overgraded. From what I've heard and read on this board SGC seems to have a better overall rep with this set however.

[snider4prez]

Lee,

Yes that is why I posted them together. I really didn't think the card was that tough, just really cool. I have never seen another one but for the price I paid for both I thought it was the correct price for just one. I really like variations and I thought this was a great one. Do you collect variations like this for your sets?

Hugh,

I really couldn't tell you if that is a good price without seeing the card it self. As seen here with this set T202's can really vary in condition in there given TPG grade. Also remember as stated in this thread these cards are pretty easy to find so just wait for the right card at what you think the right price is for you, patiance is your friend in collecting cards.

Trevor

[milkit1]

I have the turquoise evers as well. I'm on year five of my set and still need 15 cards

[Sterling Sports Auctions]

Those of you that have a Torqouise Evers, what is the back?

Also as far as variations, they are few and far between. In the 11 years of being on ebay and pursueing the T202s I think I have seen fewer than 5. If anyone has any I would love to see them (please exclude minor miscuts they are quite frequent in the set.

My favorite part of the T202's is the write up on the back.

I have never figured out the pricing of the center panels with HOFers, especially Lajoie and Crawford since they don't appear on end panels. At times you can pick them up for common prices and other time you have to pay the HOFer prices.

Lee

[wrapperguy]

I have been collecting the T202 set for about 15 months and am one card away (Just Before the Battle with Wiltse/Meyers). I have 0 patience and put it together quite quickly. Never bought a huge lot either. Paid the most for a Devlin/Matty variation ($675) at the Chicago National last month. I have seen it on so many wantlists of other collectors, I probably overpaid. When these cards are all in a binder and you get to see them and turn the pages, it is a rainbow of color that stimulates the senses! I have been in love with this set forever and am thrilled to be almost complete. Go for it. You will not regret it!

[snider4prez]

Ok so I have looked at the factory numbers and colors on my T202 backs and here's what I can up with.

Red Factory 649 = 1 Card #66

Red Factory 30 = 32 Cards

Black Factory 30 = 3 Cards #40, #60 (This is the green variation of the Evers card) and #116

Black Factory 649 = 61 Cards

I don't know what this means but these are the stats.

[Sterling Sports Auctions]

Trevor can you show a scan of the Red 649? I have never seen one in the 11 years of actively pursuing the set. Thanks for the inputs that is right in line with the data I have accumulated.

Lee

[Bambino]

Originally Posted by snider4prez

Hugh,

I really couldn't tell you if that is a good price without seeing the card it self. As seen here with this set T202's can really vary in condition in there given TPG grade.

This is the card I was looking at:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1912-T202-Ha...#ht_500wt_1152

[snider4prez]

I will get a scan of the red factory 649 up later tonight.

As far as that Johnson. I have seen way better cards for the money. I know it's a 2 and I think graded correctly but like I said before with time and being very picky you will find a better looking card for that price. Just my 2 cents.

[itjclarke]

I 2nd the last comment about the PSA2 Johnson.. I waited and got a 4 that looks like a 6 (has a barely barely visible center wrinkle on front only) for only $10 more than the 2's asking price. It's soooo tempting to pull the trigger on some of those BINs though! Last similar 2 got $127.

Re- the Red 649, I haven't collected T202 as long as the others, but have read lots of old threads and have never seen that back mentioned.. So I am very also very curious to see it.

[snider4prez]

Ok sorry my bad I had wrote the wrong color for that card. #66 is a Black 649 not a red one. So now I see why none of you guys had seen one before Sorry for getting everyones hopes up.

[itjclarke]

Mystery solved! Woulda been kinda funny to leave us all hanging to ponder the one and only Red 649 in the world.

[Sterling Sports Auctions]

I have recorded over 1200 front and backs and never seen a red 649 so I kind of figured it was just a mistake. It is fun to try and get all the backs I currently have 6 cards with all 3 backs.

Lee

[peterb69]

Just f.y.i., I have 69 different T202's and I just looked at their backs. I have about the same % of different backs as trevor. Also, just 1 card having the black factory 30. If anyone is keeping track, the combo with the black 30 is Moriarity Spiked (Willett/Stange).