American Beautys on ebay

steve B · #1 08-31-2011, 02:22 PM

I didn't think Chris was the one who'd snagged the ABs. He was just the first to say buying off ebay was ok while I was in a cranky mood.

But...... All the ABs had bids. So that theory is out.

As far as it not being against the rules till the auction is over
From http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/...practices.html
You're not allowed to:

"List an item that may be out of stock at the time of purchase.

List an item that you're simultaneously selling outside of eBay.

Offer an item that may not be what's delivered to the buyer."

And that policy is part of the user agrement. So, NO you can't end to sell off ebay. You can end to sell to the high bidder at the bid price but that's one of the choices under the reason for ending early.
And NO, you can't use ebay as a classified ad.
And NO, you can't list an item that's for sale somewhere else.

It's quite clear. If anyone didn't read the used agreement they agreed to perhaps they should.

And if it wasn't just cardboard none of the lame excuses about not buying anything without cheating would be accepted. None of you accept it from McGwire, Sosa, Bonds, Clemens, .............That was ok too, I mean they wouldn't win any games if they weren't juiced right? Or if you're waiting for an appointment it would be ok to tell the receptionist you'd give an extra hundred to go to the head of the line? Really, otherwise you'd have to wait for those undeserving other people who were also waiting.

I'm pretty fed up with the sort of attitude I'm seeing. I thought the people here were a better sort than this. After listening to the power company lie for two days I really wanted to spend some time with a community of people who aren't ..... Hell, I can't even describe my mood right now without getting into bruce land.

Steve B

vintagetoppsguy · #2 08-31-2011, 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by steve B

So, NO you can't end to sell off ebay. You can end to sell to the high bidder at the bid price but that's one of the choices under the reason for ending early.
And NO, you can't use ebay as a classified ad.
And NO, you can't list an item that's for sale somewhere else.

Steve, you�re wrong here and let me explain why. I used to own a company called Dealer Advertising Solutions, LLC in Houston, TX. We listed used cars (and sometimes new ones too) on eBay on behalf of dealerships. We created the listings (descriptions, digital photos, etc) and scheduled/launched the listings, but the dealership (usually the internet manager) was responsible for working their own leads � emails, phone calls, etc. Anybody looking at the car on eBay couldn�t tell that the listing was created by a third party. We got paid for our work whether the car sold or not. Anyway, when a dealership listed a car on eBay, do you think they removed the car from their lot? Certainly not. The car stayed on their lot and was also available to retail customers. Meanwhile that same car was also available on other websites such as Yahoo.com, cars.com, autotrader.com, the dealership�s own website and probably a dozen other websites. Again, the idea is to sell the car and they will advertise it on as many websites as possible...yes, including eBay. If the car sold before the eBay auction was over, the dealership would remove the listing from eBay. Very rarely did a car actually sell on eBay because most of the time a serious buyer would inquire about the car and the buyer and the dealership were able to work a deal before the auction ended.

Now, I know we're talking about cars and not cards, but the same principle applies. The bottom line is that eBay allows it and they absolutely have to. I know they discourage it and they don�t offer buyer or seller protection for off-line purchases, but it is not against eBay�s rules to end an item early (bids or not) to sell to another buyer. In fact, as has already been pointed out, one of eBay�s reasons for ending in item early is, �This listing was ended by the seller because the item was sold.�

I understand it's frustrating to bid on something thinking you have a shot to win it only to have the auction ended early by the seller. I've had it happen to me many times too. But, everybody is blaming the seller for something eBay allows to go on.

That said, I do have a problem with this case in particular because the seller's own description states, "THESE ARE TRUE AND REAL AUCTIONS BECAUSE THE E-BAY COMMUNITY DETERMINES THE SELLING PRICE."

steve B · #3 08-31-2011, 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

Steve, you�re wrong here and let me explain why. I used to own a company called Dealer Advertising Solutions, LLC in Houston, TX. We listed used cars (and sometimes new ones too) on eBay on behalf of dealerships. We created the listings (descriptions, digital photos, etc) and scheduled/launched the listings, but the dealership (usually the internet manager) was responsible for working their own leads � emails, phone calls, etc. Anybody looking at the car on eBay couldn�t tell that the listing was created by a third party. We got paid for our work whether the car sold or not. Anyway, when a dealership listed a car on eBay, do you think they removed the car from their lot? Certainly not. The car stayed on their lot and was also available to retail customers. Meanwhile that same car was also available on other websites such as Yahoo.com, cars.com, autotrader.com, the dealership�s own website and probably a dozen other websites. Again, the idea is to sell the car and they will advertise it on as many websites as possible...yes, including eBay. If the car sold before the eBay auction was over, the dealership would remove the listing from eBay. Very rarely did a car actually sell on eBay because most of the time a serious buyer would inquire about the car and the buyer and the dealership were able to work a deal before the auction ended.

Now, I know we're talking about cars and not cards, but the same principle applies. The bottom line is that eBay allows it and they absolutely have to. I know they discourage it and they don�t offer buyer or seller protection for off-line purchases, but it is not against eBay�s rules to end an item early (bids or not) to sell to another buyer. In fact, as has already been pointed out, one of eBay�s reasons for ending in item early is, �This listing was ended by the seller because the item was sold.�

I understand it's frustrating to bid on something thinking you have a shot to win it only to have the auction ended early by the seller. I've had it happen to me many times too. But, everybody is blaming the seller for something eBay allows to go on.

That said, I do have a problem with this case in particular because the seller's own description states, "THESE ARE TRUE AND REAL AUCTIONS BECAUSE THE E-BAY COMMUNITY DETERMINES THE SELLING PRICE."

Ebay motors specifically allows it. The main site specifically does not.
The page I linked to is clear about their policies for the main site.

Steve B

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