SCP Auctions - poor customer service w/ auction item

[Matt]

SCP has had other issues - I imagine a forum search would turn up some threads.

[RichardSimon]

Originally Posted by Matt

SCP has had other issues - I imagine a forum search would turn up some threads.

Instead of SCP in the above sentence,,, say most auction houses.
Shilling, fakes, fakes, fakes, more shilling, Delehanty, Wagner, game used or NOT, 3rd parties playing favorites, hidden reserves, etc, etc, etc.

[travrosty]

I agree with Richard,

auction loa's, pre-certified, fake, secretarial, shilling, hidden reserves, auction houses bidding on the items. playing favorites.

it's all there and more.

[calvindog]

Allowing consignors to bid on their own items, win their own items, auction houses lying about their ownership of items, etc.

[vintagechris]

Auction LOA's and pre certified is something that need to change. With some of the things I have seen authenticators authenticate, I have no doubt many times these authenticators do not look at the items.

Sadly the auction houses do not hold them accountable. They just assume it is an honest mistake when in reality it is painfully obvious to people with autograph knowledge that they did not even look at them.

I recently returned an autograph lot to an auction house because of the large number of fakes. Not only fakes but obvious fakes that took me no more than three minutes to know there were major issues.

To the credit of the auction house, they allowed me to return for a refund. However, what I would like to see even more is the auction house to start holding this "authenticator" responsible for this garbage. The sad part is whoever forged the signatures, didn't even try to sign like the player. They just signed however they wanted to and somehow these passed the "authentication process"!

[RichardSimon]

Auction LOA's,,, pre-certified,,, just more mumbo jumbo from authentication services.
You either examine an item or not.
Why are they allowed to get away with this?
"Well, yeah, we sort of looked at that autograph before the auction, but if you want us to REALLY look at it, ya gotta pay up, sucka."

[travrosty]

on their websites, these companies state that the purchaser of the auction item should really send it in to ensure their highest level of service.

they are admitting you are getting their lowest level to begin with. a 'preliminary' inspection.

preliminary just means sub-standard, why anyone should put up with that is a question i would like these auction houses to answer.


the drunk guy packed your chute, but if you pay us extra money, you can ensure our highest service of packing your chute.

[vintagechris]

Originally Posted by RichardSimon

Auction LOA's,,, pre-certified,,, just more mumbo jumbo from authentication services.
You either examine an item or not.
Why are they allowed to get away with this?
"Well, yeah, we sort of looked at that autograph before the auction, but if you want us to REALLY look at it, ya gotta pay up, sucka."

The sad part Richard, I am really starting to believe that they don't even look at the stuff. I wish I had scanned some of this stuff to show people.

The sad part about the lot I purchased, it was about 350 cards. I myself could personally go through in about 15 minutes and pull out the questionable ones. Questionable meaning either I know they are fake or questionable meaning I have not seen many examples of that person's autograph.

Sadly about 30% of this lot were without question bad. WIth another 20% highly questionable. There were forgeries of Harry Carson and Charlie Joiner in this lot. Guys who have signed TTM for years and their signatures haven't changed much at all if any, and they didn't even look like the person TRIED to form the letters correctly.

How does someone who is a "professional" authenticator not know what a Charlie Joiner autograph looks like?!

These auction houses need to start being more careful because you are letting these guys scam you. Many times they are not even looking at this stuff. I used to question if they looked at them, after this last lot, I know without question this authenticator did not look at them.

As I said in previous post, the auction house allowed me to return it but if they continue to not hold these people accountable for their "mistakes" they will have lost my business.