T218 series breakdown and ad backs

[Griffins]

I've got a spreadsheet with the backs listed that I have in my set, does anyone else have the same? would be easy to consolidate it to see what is out there

[Exhibitman]

I can confirm these cards as existing:

Mecca, Fact. 649 Attell
Mecca, Fact. 649 Baldwin, Matty
Hassan II, fact. 649 Brannigan, Patsy
Mecca II, Fact. 649 Brown
Mecca, Fact. 30 Burke
Hassan, fact. 649 Coulon
Mecca, Fact. 30 Coulon
Mecca II, Fact. 649 Cross
Hassan II, fact. 649 Donahoe
Mecca, Fact. 649 Driscoll
Mecca, Fact. 649 Gans
Mecce II, Fact. 649 Gans
Hassan, Fact. 649 Gardner
Hassan, Fact. 30 Gardiner, Geo.
Mecca II, Fact. 649 Goodman, Abe
Mecca II, Fact. 30 Goodman, Jack
Mecca II, Fact. 649 Griffin, Charley
Mecca, fact 649 Hurley
Mecca, Fact. 30 Hyland
Mecca II, fact. 649 Jeannette
Mecca Jeffries fighting
Mecca II, Fact. 30 Jeffries-portrait
Mecca II, Fact. 649 Johnson-front
Mecca II, Fact. 649 Johnson-side
Mecca II, Fact. 649 Kaufman
Mecca, Fact. 649 Ketchell
Mecca, Fact. 649 Keyes
Mecca, Fact. 30 Kline
Mecca II, Fact. 649 Langford
Mecca, Fact. 649 Lewis, Harry
Hassan, fact. 649 Lewis, Willie
Mecca II, Fact. 649 Loughrey
Hassah, Fact. 30 Marto
Hassan, fact. 649 McFarland
Mecca, Fact. 649 McGovern
Mecca II, Fact. 649 Mellody
Mecca, fact. 649 Murphy
Mecca II, Fact. 649 Neil
Hassan, Fact. 649 Nelson, Battling
Mecca II, Fact. 30 Nelson, Fighting Dick
Mecca II, Fact. 30 Nitchie
Mecca, Fact. 649 O'Brien
Mecca, Fact. 649 O'Toole
Hassan II, fact. 649 Papke
Mecca II, Fact. 649 Russell
Mecca II, Fact. 649 Stone
Mecca, Fact. 649 Sullivan, Jack "Twin"
Hassan, Fact. 30 Sullivan, Mike (Twin)
Mecca, Fact. 649 Summers-bag
Mecca, fact. 30 Summers-rowing
Mecca, fact. 30 Walsh, Eddie
Mecca, Fact. 649 Walsh. Jimmy
Mecca, Fact. 30 Welsh, Fred
Mecca, Fact. 649 West
Mecca, Fact. 649 Wolgast
Tolstoi, Fact. 30 Brown
Tolstoi, Fact. 30 Corbett
Tolstoi, Fact. 30 Donahoe
Tolstoi, Fact. 30 Gans
Tolstoi, Fact. 30 Gardiner, Geo.
Tolstoi, Fact. 30 Goodman, Abe
Tolstoi, Fact. 30 Goodman, Jack
Tolstoi, Fact. 30 Griffin
Tolstoi, Fact. 30 Jeannette
Tolstoi, Fact. 30 Jeffries portrait
Tolstoi, Fact. 30 Johnson-front
Tolstoi, Fact. 30 Kaufman
Tolstoi, Fact. 30 Langford
Tolstoi, Fact. 30 Mellody
Tolstoi, Fact. 30 Nelson, Fighting Dick
Tolstoi, Fact. 30 Nitchie
Tolstoi, Fact. 30 O'Keefe
Tolstoi, Fact. 30 Papke
Tolstoi, Fact. 30 Stone
Tolstoi, Fact. 30 Sullivan, Mike (Twin)
Tolstoi, Fact. 30 Walsh. Jimmy
Tolstoi, Fact. 30 Hartranft
Tolstoi, Fact. 30 Sheppard
Tolstoi, Fact. 30 Williams

[DaveW]

Anthony and Adam,
Thanks for replying. Maybe if we all combine our data we can figure out how all these backs fit together. Anthony - I do have a list of all the cards I own as well as many I've seen on EBay or other sites. I'd love to exchange lists with you sometime. Adam - I've added all your data to my list and most of it seems to fit pretty well. Up to now, I've looked at 1000s of cards and never seen any that had both a Mecca and Mecca II back, but 4 of your cards would break that pattern (Gans, Johnson (side view), O'Brien and Walsh). Could you check those again and verify them? I'm sure it's possible since there are cards that have both Hassan and Hassan II backs. With 153 cards and several back variations, you'd have to look at a lot of cards to get the whole picture.
I'm also taking data on the C52 set and the Tolstoi backs. It looks like only cards with Mecca II backs are in the Tolstoi set (so far).
If you guys are interested in what else I've found so far, I'd be happy to share.
Thanks,
- Dave

[Exhibitman]

All of mine are correct.

My Gans and Walsh are Mecca I and also Tolstoi

[DaveW]

Thanks Adam for confirming. I believe that the OP was correct that the Tolstoi cards only came from the Mecca II series (Gans, Walsh, Johnson, O'Brien and MSullivan all seem to be in both Mecca series).

- Dave

[GasHouseGang]

I would like to thank everyone for replying. For a while there I didn't think anyone was interested in this thread! I had the list that's in the guides, but that didn't give this level of detail. Thanks and I'll have to look at mine and see if they will add any info. I'm sure I don't have any Tolstoi backs, just Mecca and Hassan.

[DaveW]

Anthony - I'd still like to get a copy of your spreadsheet to consolidate with mine. Of course, I'd also be happy to send you my spreadsheet if you want. I don't keep track of which factory they are from, just the back types. - Dave