Raising the debt limit?

Leon · #1 08-21-2011, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

Not trying to argue with you Leon, but you said you found it disconcerting. I'm just curious what you found disconcerting about a prayer meeting held by a politician outside of the political realm?

And, if watching it bothered you, couldn't you have simply flipped the channel?

On a side note, the white house has had a National Day of Prayer since 1952 - it actually goes back furher than that, but that's when Truman signed it into law. Do you object to that?

I am finished arguing this subject. Thanks for your views...

teetwoohsix · #2 08-25-2011, 10:13 AM

I've been doing research on Rick Perry over the last couple of days and I can honestly say he will never get my vote.

So far Ron Paul appeals to me, but I do feel that as a country we need Social Security as well as Medicare- and if he wants to do away with these two programs then I probably wouldn't give him my vote. If he would make the government replace the $$ they looted from S.S. then I'm all for him. This is an important thing, we have too many elderly & disabled who rely on these programs to live, and I don't feel they are "hand-outs",,,,,,,not like "welfare". I know these aren't popular programs with republicans, and I'm still trying to find out what Paul plans to do about these.

I don't fully identify with either left or right 100%.......I try to vote for who I think has the best ideas for us as a country, and am continuously disappointed, to say the least.

Sincerely, Clayton

vintagetoppsguy · #3 08-25-2011, 10:27 AM

Clayton,

Rick Perry never said he wanted to eliminate Social Security or Medicare. I'm not sure where you heard that (perhaps it was that political prayer rally

), but I would love to know your source. Link?

He wants to reform it. I think we can all agree that Social Security needs to be reformed. It's not being used for the purpose that it was originally intended to be used for.

teetwoohsix · #4 08-25-2011, 10:59 AM

Hi David-

Sometimes I jumble things together and what I'm trying to say doesn't come out right. My reason for not wanting to vote for Perry really had nothing to do with Social Security. My final decision on him was based off of this documentary I just watched called "EndGame"......I don't know if you want to watch the whole thing, it's over 2 hours long-and a bit depressing- but here's the link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-CrNlilZho

I guess I only brought up S.S. & medicare because it's usually the only thing that keeps me from identifying with the republican view 100%.

Sincerely, Clayton

4815162342 · #5 08-25-2011, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by teetwoohsix

...My final decision on him was based off of this documentary I just watched called "EndGame"......I don't know if you want to watch the whole thing, it's over 2 hours long-and a bit depressing- but here's the link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-CrNlilZho...

I don't think I would let Alex Jones sway my voting decisions.

teetwoohsix · #6 08-25-2011, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by 4815162342

I don't think I would let Alex Jones sway my voting decisions.

I know what you're saying, and I would never let one person sway my voting decisions. I am not a fan of his style (fear to get his point across) but if you think about it it's not much different than the way the corporate media tries to keep the world in fear.........but at least Jones covers topics that you will never get from your favorite cable news station- some of the topics should be very important to this country.

My choice not to vote for Perry was not just based on this movie, I was very disturbed by the fact that he was willing to force HPV vaccinations on school girls age 11-12, unless parents "opted out". I know he is now admitting his stance on this was a mistake, and I appreciate that, but it's the same old same old- large pharma company (Merck) stands to make billions off of a new drug & all of a sudden a politician is talking about "forced vaccinations".......and Merck's lobbyists doubled up their efforts in the state of Texas at the time. Money buying policy. When does the corruption end?

Anyhow- everyone is entitled to their own choices and opinions. As far as Jones, it's more about the message than the messenger. Interesting thing about that movie is that it came out a couple of years ago? hhmmmm....
Sincerely, Clayton

vintagetoppsguy · #7 08-25-2011, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by teetwoohsix

My choice not to vote for Perry was not just based on this movie, I was very disturbed by the fact that he was willing to force HPV vaccinations on school girls age 11-12, unless parents "opted out".

If the parents can opt out, how is it force? Aren't our school kids forced to get other vaccinations where there is no opt out? I actually agree with you on this, but for a different reason. It is my opinion that the HPV vaccination wasn't adequately tested for long term side efects.

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