Piedmont Cards / ACE Authenticated Babe Ruth Signed Silver Certificates

[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by slidekellyslide

I invited Justin to come over and participate in these threads, but haven't heard back...I wonder why?

Dan, there is nothing that Justin can say to defend his authenticating those cut sigs and, of course, his failure to ask the question "How did you (Frank) come to acquire these 13 Christy Mathewson and 42 Babe Ruth cut signatures?"

If Justin didn't raise an eyebrow to being asked to cert all of those cut sigs then he is totally clueless.

[GrayGhost]

And of course, as Chris and others have said, what MORON customer would not be curious as to how a dealer gets SO MANY similar "cuts" and such of difficult and/or popular signatures. Blind faith can get get you ripped off.

[travrosty]

there is a wife signed marciano on ebay right now, i am trying to get it removed., maybe it is the same postcard, or a similar one, but definitely no good.


http://www.ebay.com/itm/ROCKY-MARCIA...item19c8038e0e


but ebay is slow to respond, most of the time i report something with proof, not just specualation, it just remains up, very frustrating. (sigh!)


there is also a marciano preprint on ebay.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rocky-Marcia...item2566beb959

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http://joeheavyweight.com/rockymarciano.aspx

both of these examples are on my marciano page, near the bottom.

[mighty bombjack]

Originally Posted by GrayGhost

And of course, as Chris and others have said, what MORON customer would not be curious as to how a dealer gets SO MANY similar "cuts" and such of difficult and/or popular signatures. Blind faith can get get you ripped off.

This was what raised my curiosity. I saw that Piedmont Sports had listed a Christy Mathewson signed "Won in the Ninth" presentation copy on ebay. I saw that it had an ACE cert, and had not only never heard of that company, but had heard (on this very MB among other places) that some of the presentation copies of that particular book were secretarily signed. Why would this book, of all treasured items, have a lower-tier cert attached to it?

The book vanished from ebay after a couple of days (no doubt due to the cert), so I went to Piedmont Cards' website and my jaw dropped when I saw the sheer number of Mathewson, Ruth, and Gehrig autos for sale with ACE and AMA (?) certs. I've never seen such an inventory (but then again, no one else has, either).

That was more than enough for me to write off the legitimacy of ACE and AMA. Sadly, it makes me want to write off Piedmont Sports as well. To his credit, Frank has taken the stuff off of his website. To his detriment, he listed it in the first place. At best he is a rube who got taken, and at worst he is a party to the growing number of pre-war autograph forgeries that are turning up.

I'd still like to see that Matty book and get some of the other members' opinions of it. Not that I could afford a legit copy right now.

Wayne Walker

[Leon]

Something to consider is the advertising that F.Prisco did on almost (if not all) of his listings on ebay. It went something like this...to paraphrase-

"I have been in the business for over 25 years and have seen it all"


Ok, so since that is what he promoted about himself, how many on this board think he was duped with that many Matty signatures?
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[mr2686]

His main problem was that he thought the rest of us hadn't seen it all!

[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by Leon

Something to consider is the advertising that F.Prisco did on almost (if not all) of his listings on ebay. It went something like this...to paraphrase-

"I have been in the business for over 25 years and have seen it all"


Ok, so since that is what he promoted about himself, how many on this board think he was duped with that many Matty signatures?
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You get duped when you buy one; you ARE NOT duped when you purchase seventeen (I'm including the four he claimed he already sold on top of the thirteen discussed here).

You get duped when you buy one Babe Ruth cut; you ARE NOT duped when you purchase 42 Babe Ruth cut signatures.

[David Atkatz]

Originally Posted by mighty bombjack

To his credit, Frank has taken the stuff off of his website.

To his credit!? It's called hiding the evidence. He's runnin' scared.

[barrysloate]

Frank wasn't duped, nor was Priddy. Each knows exactly what he is doing.

[gnaz01]

Originally Posted by barrysloate

frank wasn't duped, nor was priddy. Each knows exactly what he is doing.

amen!! :d

Didn't know his entire website was shut down!! Did he skip town??

[slidekellyslide]

Originally Posted by gnaz01

amen!! :d

Didn't know his entire website was shut down!! Did he skip town??

Call him up and ask him...he listed his phone number in his contact info on this forum.

888-811-6580

[mighty bombjack]

Originally Posted by gnaz01

amen!! :d

Didn't know his entire website was shut down!! Did he skip town??

His site wasn't shut down, but his eBay account was. He still has plenty of autos for sale on his site, but anything with ace/AMA certs has been removed.

[David Atkatz]

Originally Posted by thetruthisoutthere

If Justin didn't raise an eyebrow to being asked to cert all of those cut sigs then he is totally clueless.

He's not clueless at all. Just dishonest.