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Old 08-17-2011, 08:06 AM
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3,000 hits or he has to buy a ticket like the rest of us to get into the Hall.
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Old 08-17-2011, 08:21 AM
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The Hall of Fame is not a Hall of Immortals and hasn't been for a very long time. We could all name at least 20 members who were only "very good". I think it is interesting that the "milestone" numbers are becoming less important. Quite a few 500 home run guys will not get in. Eventually, 3000 hits will not assure election. What about 300 wins? Is that a greater milestone than 3000 hits?
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On some of the different baseball sites, I have read that some people believe that guys like Jim Rice, Andre Dawson and Tony Perez are not Hall of Fame players. Having grown up watching those guys play, I think I would rather have them on my team than Johnny Damon.

So, if they are not worthy of the Hall than neither is Damon.

On the other hand, if Damon is HOF worthy, then you have to start looking at enshrining guys like Ron Santo, Tim Raines, Alan Trammell, Lou Whitaker, Dave Parker and possibly even Al Oliver.

Heck, maybe even Bill Buckner could get in, because, you know, he had a lot of Hits, won a batting title, made an All Star team, finished 10th in MVP voting twice and played for a team that made the World Series (and which he became famous for).
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It is very hard for me to imagine Damon in the HOF, but then again, I read the other day that Adam Dunn continues on his current pace will reach 600 home runs, so when you ask if Damon will get in the HOF, it is hard to see that just like it is hard to see Adam Dunn in the HOF one day, but if he does get to 600 and in that elusive company, it just may happen. (Personally, if either one of these guys reaches the HOF, I think I will quit collecting. The thought of it, just bothers me....I will leave it at that...
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Old 08-17-2011, 06:41 PM
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3,000 hits is an automatic. But if for some reason he doesn't get there, I don't think he's in.
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Bonds absolutely deserves to get in? I disagree. Here's how he deserves to get in, allow everything. U want to take horse steroids fine, you want to take HGH fine. Do whatever you want, hit 600 ft home runs, get a 22 inch neck and a size 9 hat, who cares. Outside of that in my opinion he doesn't deserve to get in. The possibility that he would have gotten in without steroids is not germane to the discussion, he chose to take steroids (unknowingly of course) so he is automatically eliminated in my book.
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It's funny how Bonds' name comes up in just about any Hall of Fame discussion ... as for Damon, he's not even close. But because the Hall of Fame's voters — many of whom are not students of the game's history — tend to favor longevity over greatness, he just might get in ...

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What about 300 wins? Is that a greater milestone than 3000 hits?
I think with the way the game has evolved, that 300 wins is as much or greater a milestone than 3,000 hits. Does anyone pitching these days even have a legit shot at 300? I think MAYBE CC Sabathia, and he would still need like 6 more years of 20 wins to do so. With the outcome of the game being taken out of the starting pitchers hand, a W isn't an easy thing to come by.
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Not to hijack the thread, but how many current or prospective HOFers will have 3000 hits, 500 doubles, 250 HRs, 1250 RBIs, 350 stolen bases and a .300 batting average?

Answer-only one .............................

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Jeter will be the guy if his lifetime avg holds up (.313) only needs a few more doubles, sb's and hr's all easily within grasp. Also, AROD very close but with only 304 steals and less than 10 his last 2 seasons he probably won't make it. Mays and Bonds close, Mays short 12 steals, Bonds short 65 hits (plus hopefully he never makes it anyway).

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bonds absolutely deserve to get in, 1st ballot.

and what % of bbwaa don't even know what WAR stand for? you guys are giving some of these fossils too much credit.

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