ALERT....Re-fronted (re-backed) Green Cobb with a Red HINDU back at the National

[tedzan]

If you are new to the T206 game, here are the 7 backs that the green Cobb was printed with........

PIEDMONT 150
PIEDMONT 350
SOVEREIGN 150
SWEET CAP 150, Factory 25
SWEET CAP 150, Factory 30
SWEET CAP 350, Factory 30
OLD MILL


TED Z

[Abravefan11]

Originally Posted by tedzan

If you are new to the T206 game, here are the 8 backs that the green Cobb was printed with........

PIEDMONT 150
PIEDMONT 350
SOVEREIGN 150
SWEET CAP 150, Factory 25
SWEET CAP 150, Factory 30
SWEET CAP 350, Factory 30
brown HINDU
OLD MILL


TED Z

03/14/2011

"YOU PASSED THE TEST !

I threw that "Brown HINDU" Cobb out there to see how long it would take before someone caught me on this ?

I took 2 hrs and 19 mins.....very slow response."

[tedzan]

OK....touche !

Thanks Tim

I'm still suffering from "National fatigue" .... it will take me another day to return to normal.

The show was pretty good....buying and selling.

Regards,

TED Z

[wonkaticket]

Originally Posted by abravefan11

03/14/2011

"you passed the test !

I threw that "brown hindu" cobb out there to see how long it would take before someone caught me on this ?

I took 2 hrs and 19 mins.....very slow response."

lol

[atx840]

I am thinking this is authentic, Inside T206 doesn't list it as known (I know its a bit outdated).

[Abravefan11]

Chris my friend, you've opened a can of worms with that card.

Yes, the red Cobb/red Hindu is a good front back combo unlike the green Cobb/red Hindu. The problem with the card you posted is it's presumed to have come from a known card doctor and many people suspect that it has been altered, however few of these people have actually viewed the card in person. So though their concerns are valid they have no real evidence this card is no good. It has been authenticated by PSA, but other impossible front/back cards have passed the TPG's in the past so it's not a stretch to think that a rebacked or refronted card is in a holder. My hope is that another red Cobb/red Hindu will surface and make this example moot.

[teetwoohsix]

Hi Tim-

Is it presumed that the Red Cobb/ Red Hindu came from a card doctor, or is it a known fact ? Just wondering....not sure of the details behind the card, but damn- it looks "too good" to be re-backed (or should I say re-fronted ).

The fact that the TPG graded it adds a little to the mystery........if it's a Frankenstien it's a damn good one

I also would love to see another come around to squash the doubt, seeing that it is a possible F/B combo.

Sincerely, Clayton

[Abravefan11]

Originally Posted by teetwoohsix

Is it presumed that the Red Cobb/ Red Hindu came from a card doctor, or is it a known fact ?

What I stated in my earlier post was that I have been told that the card came from a known card doctor. Meaning it was created and then made it's way into the hobby. Who submitted it to PSA or consigned it to REA? I don't know and mean in no way to imply they were the person accused of doctoring the card.

Objectively looking at the T206 set, the printing process and how the subsets were produced show the red Cobb/red Hindu to be a possible back. Other red Hindu subjects have yet to surface that I believe will eventually as well. For reasons I won't get into now there is a small subset of red Hindu subjects that are very scarce in relation to other subjects with the same back and Cobb is in this group.

I'm with Leon and side with the posted example being good. I won't condemn it on hearsay and will gladly change my opinion when someone produces something tangible to prove it isn't good.

And as I've said many times before I don't care how many T206's someone has seen, held, or claimed to have collected, they haven't seen them all. There are many more new examples to come.

All the best.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by atx840

I am thinking this is authentic, Inside T206 doesn't list it as known (I know its a bit outdated).

Personally I think this Red Cobb red Hindu is real. Not that it passed a TPG but it also passed Rob Lifson and he's pretty good at spotting issues with cards. Also, so far, I have not seen a re-backed T206 or other T card that looked that good, with no wrinkles or creases at all. I don't confess to be a T206 expert and have not held that card in hand though. regards

and one other thing...the owner who consigned it to REA isn't a card doctor, I don't think, though a doctor could have owned it at some point....

[tedzan]

Leon

No, the guy who consigned this card is not a "card doctor" ...... however, he is just one of several who have owned this card since its first appearance
approx. 10 years ago.

Under magnification, you will see what appears to be a laminate line across and just below the top border of this card....very, very suspicious.


Regards,

TED Z

[Sean]

Originally Posted by tedzan

If you are new to the T206 game, here are the 7 backs that the green Cobb was printed with........

PIEDMONT 150
PIEDMONT 350
SOVEREIGN 150
SWEET CAP 150, Factory 25
SWEET CAP 150, Factory 30
SWEET CAP 350, Factory 30
OLD MILL


TED Z

Ted, I found this old thread. Is this info still correct? Or is there a Cobb green/ Sweet Cap 350, Factory 25?


PS- Here's my new Cobb:


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[edjs]

Originally Posted by Sean

Ted, I found this old thread. Is this info still correct? Or is there a Cobb green/ Sweet Cap 350, Factory 25?


PS- Here's my new Cobb:


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Sean, I was seventh under bidder on that baby! I was watching that from the get go, figured I had a chance, but turned out, you da man! Nice job.

[Pat R]

Originally Posted by Sean

Ted, I found this old thread. Is this info still correct? Or is there a Cobb green/ Sweet Cap 350, Factory 25?


PS- Here's my new Cobb:


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Sean,
There are Cobb (Green Portraits) with SC 350/25 Backs.
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Cobb (Green) SC 350-25 PSA 6.jpg

[Sean]

Thanks Pat. That's a great Cobb- PSA6. Is it yours?