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Old 07-29-2011, 06:58 PM
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If you read the description on the Legendary web site it states that this issue was discussed with Lemke and he is putting it in the next standard catalog. On another topic as for the FB version of this set, there must be a sample football poster out there similar to the baseball SI order poster. Columbia City Collectibles has quite a few raw FB on Ebay and they are amongst the best when it comes to obscure issues, maybe someone out there knows them and can get a response from them.
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Old 07-29-2011, 07:28 PM
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everything looks like the cards were cut from the poster to me...

The narrow or nonexisting top border, and bottom border cut so close, the Mays shows the same exact ghost image of his name above the caption, the Clemente name is offcenter, etc.

plus like others said the backs dont look like cereal box card stock.
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Old 07-29-2011, 07:36 PM
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Old 07-29-2011, 08:24 PM
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I had (and still have) a bunch of 1968 Sports Illustrated posters still sealed in their original cello wrap. Inside some of the cello sealed, rolled up posters was a small checklist/advertising poster-- black and picturing all of the SI posters one could order. I believe the mini ad posters included an order form or oder address or such. I don't have the posters on hand (they're stored elsewhere-- but can get at them tomorrow), but can see if there's still one of the ad posters inside one of them.

I sold some of the insert ad posters individually on eBay, as they were pretty neat in and of themselves.

One thing is the SI ad posters are double sided. Black and picturing posters on both sides. They aren't blank/white on one side.

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DRC, cards on both sides, that is the key. But I have never heard of this cereal. But, new issues are always appearing.

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DRC, cards on both sides, that is the key. But I have never heard of this cereal. But, new issues are always appearing.

Joe

I've read/heard that Champion Corn Flakes is a non-U.S. brand - perhaps from India? There's an article somewhere on the 'net that discusses efforts by Kellogg's to market their corn flakes in countries like India, but failing to compete with local favorites (Champion being one of them)... I can't imagine, however, that many other countries in the 1960s would have been interested in American baseball or football. FWIW.
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Why would the cereal company use those catalog numbers on the cards? This doesn't make sense...it's obvious these are cut from the SI advertising piece. I've asked some of my veteran cereal box collecting friends and none have heard of this cereal...I also don't buy that it was a foreign brand...why put baseball and football cards on a foreign cereal box?? We need some answers from PSA and Bob Lemke...and perhaps Columbia City Collectibles.
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Hi Jeff,
Way back in 1981 I had tons of the SI posters in my Framingham store and the display box had a poster with miniature pictures of the posters on the front. It's been decades, but it looks like the "cards" you showed.
When I first read your post, I thought these may be the Nabisco cards, but they don't look like the ones I've had.
Your key is the numbering system for filing the posters. Every poster I had was sealed with an end having a sticker saying the player name/stock number.
It will be interesting to follow this auction to see what happens.
Hoping all is well with you, Jeff. All our best wishes from the Hedin Family to your family and my Mom sends you a big hello!
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ps: Mike Mosier from Columbia City is on the net and ebay. I googled it a while ago and it came up under his name/Columbia City and his ebay name was something like "thecityneartheriver" He's always been most helpful.
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If you read the description on the Legendary web site it states that this issue was discussed with Lemke and he is putting it in the next standard catalog.
Yes, that is certainly what Legendary's web site says....
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The inserts for the sports illustrated posters were in fact two sided. One side featured the NL players and the reverse displayed the AL players. I seem to recall that the posters were displayed for sale in a large cardboard box. I know the rolled up posters tubes had the item number number printed on an adhesive strip across one end of the tube. Customers could look at the pictures on the display box and then select the corresponding numbered rolled up poster tube from the box. I do recall in the early 70s looking for the Clemente on multiple occasions at a local sporting goods store in Tacoma. I settled for Rose and Yaz. I have no idea why I didn't simply order it from the magazine but I remember the the disappointment clearly.

I too had never heard of Champion Corn flakes. Was it a Post or Kellogg's product? It seems odd to me that either company would use a Sports Illustrated Action image for a card. I can't recall either company producing action cards during that time. A web search for Champion Corn Flakes was of little help. However, it revealed the football set which has been graded by PSA and is listed in their registry. I wonder if the same product numbers and images were also used for the sports illustrated football posters? Perhaps these hand cut cards could have been cut from Sports Illustrated product display boxes? That could explain the card stock and the blank backs. This is merely a hypothesis and certainly not meant to be misconstrued as a statement of fact.
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Old 07-30-2011, 12:34 AM
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I had a bunch of the cello wrapped SI football posters-- same as the baseball tubes but none of them had an ad poster inside. But not all of the baseball tubes had the ad inside-- just most.

If you look down the hole of a cello wrapped SI poster you can tell if it has an ad poster inside. As the ad poster is black, it stands out.

Also, it is correct that the wrapped posters had a serial numbered paper tag/strip across the top. You can also often, but not always, see the player's name on the poster itself.

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i think the question we should be asking here should be directed at psa
where is the proof that there was such a brand as champion corn flakes
what made psa grade and label them as such?
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I think the Tommy John & Joel Horlen photos used were also used on some Topps cards. The Topps Super that shows Horlen is shown. Not sure if this helps the discussion.
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Strange,
I have several of the small cuts in my Phillies collection. If I recall the backs were blank but cannot check since they are packed for my move. I think they are Sports Illustrated poster cards myself. Legendary may have taken the word of the consignor about talking to Bob. I would love to hear from Bob on this issue.

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